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Untitled

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  • see listing of Henri Grand Duke. Antares911 17:51, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRH

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Is a Luxembourg grand duchess a HRH or is another style applicable? FearÉIREANN\(caint) 22:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

From what I know, Royal Highness is the applicable style. Prior to Grand Duchess Charlotte's marriage to Prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma, the only persons to hold the HRH style were the Grand Duke and his heir. As Felix was a HRH his wife, children and descendants carry that style. Prsgoddess187 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Show some cop-on

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Apparently there was a copyright violation with the original article. The removal of such text is necessary. But instead of removing the copyvio stuff some individual wiped the entire article meaning that we lost such information as the woman's date of birth, the categories the article was linked to, and even the template for the page, none of which remotely was copyvio. So I've had to use my admin powers to dig around in the deleted article to find what was the date of birth of the woman.

Next time they could across a copyvio could the person fixing it have their brain switched on at the time and leave things like dates of birth, categories and templates that patiently aren't copyvios on the page. Just take the copyvio out, or if you can't tell which bits are, reduce the article to a stub. But don't wipe the entire page, leaving broken links, redirects to nothing, and all the non-copyvio information lost. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 22:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

No Grand Duchess

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The wife of the Grand Duke of Luxembourg does not hold the official title of Grand Duchess, the title of Grand Duchess is only given if a female is also the sovereign. See Charlotte, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg and her husband Prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma, Prince Félix was not Grand Duke of Luxembourg. Interesting is also a graph published by Hello Magazine [[1]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.92.64.103 (talk • contribs) 09:20, 22 December 2006

In royalty, for the most part, a woman takes the rank and title of her husband. Thus, the wives of princes are usually princesses, the wives of kings are usually queens and, of course, the wives of grand dukes are usually grand duchesses. Only in certain systems is the husband accorded a title to match that of a sovereign wife. Sorry, but you are just wrong. Charles 21:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have searched the constituition to find any reference for the wive of the Grand Duke to take the rank and title of her husband, I also searched all the published laws for any reference of the title Grand Duchess for the wife of Grand Duke Henri. 17:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Irrelevant - it is a matter of customary practice, not constitutional law. john k 16:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Daughter of Dictator

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In Luxembourg there are persistent rumours that Maria Teresa were the granddaughter of ex-dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Sometimes these rumours are denied, but I have never seen an official documented denial.

Can someone provide solid information on this?

Lignomontanus 10:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

She is not the daughter or granddaughter of Fulgencio Batista, nor is she remotely related to him. Callelinea (talk) 18:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the ancestry of the Grand Duchess Maria Teresa:
8. Francisco MESTRE y FERNANDEZ CRIADO
4. José Antonio MESTRE y RAMOS-ALMEYDA
9. Matilde RAMOS-ALMEYDA y GOMEZ
2. José Antonio MESTRE y ALVAREZ
10. Lucas ALVAREZ y CERICE
5. Maria Narcisa ALVAREZ y TABIÓ
11. Narcisa TABIÓ y de la LANZA
1. Maria Theresa, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg
12. Melchior BATISTA y VARONA
6. Agustin BATISTA y GONZÁLEZ de MENDOZA
13. Julia GONZÁLEZ de MENDOZA
3. Maria Teresa BATISTA y FALLA
14. Laureano FALLA y GUTIÉRREZ
7. Maria Teresa FALLA y BONET
15. Maria Dolores BONET y MORA
Hope this helps. Charles 19:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I got the chills when I saw her mother's lastname. Is she related to Fulgencio Batista? Who was defeated by Castro? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.184.179 (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, she is not related to Fulgencio Batista.Callelinea (talk) 20:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Batista family might be from the Spanish-Cuban hidalguia/ the Spanish-Cuban noble stock ?

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On the pages 10 and 11 of the genealogical study of Cuban families :

http://www.cubagenweb.org/Revista/Revista%20V06-N3.pdf ,

it is written, "As well explained by Don Luis Lira Montt in his work La prueba de la hidalguia en el Derecho Indiano, among the positive acts (or proofs) of hidalguia (Spanish untitled nobility) in the Indies were : the posts of Alcalde (mayor), Alcalde ordinario (ordinary mayor), Alcalde de primero y segundo voto (mayor of first or second vote), Regidor (alderman), Regidor perpetuo (perpetual city governor), Regidor decano (senior city governor), Alférez real (royal ensign), Alguacil mayor (principal constable), Procurador general (general attorney), Alcalde mayor provincial (provincial principal mayor), Alcalde de la Santa Hermandad (mayor of the sacred brotherhood), Fiel ejecutor (civil servant in charge of the supplies of the city), Depositario general (general treasurer) and other posts of the counsel" (...) and "According to the thesis presented by D. Luis Lira Montt, we can deduce that from the first moment (of the Spanish colonization of the island of Cuba) the alcaldes (mayors) were chosen from among the most notorious hidalgos (nobles) and important and respectable persons of the city, a tradition that is maintained until the beginning of the Ten Years' War (1868). From that moment on the Alcaldes were from among those loyal to the crown, taking in consideration the respectability and accomplishments of the person".

So according to the genealogy of the Grand Duchess consort Maria Teresa (by genealogist William Addams Reitwiesner), she could have ties with the Spanish-Cuban petty noble stock by the Batista family, this latter that which we could consider from the Spanish "mayoral nobility" in Cuba :

  • Maria Teresa MESTRE y BATISTA (Grand Duchess consort of Luxembourg), * Marianao, La Habana, Cuba, 22 III 1956 (daughter of :)
    • Maria Teresa BATISTA y FALLA, * El Vedado, La Habana 1928 + 1988 (daughter of :)
      • Agustin BATISTA y GONZÁLEZ de MENDOZA, abogado (lawyer), * La Habana 1899 + Genève 1968 (son of :)
        • Melchior BATISTA y VARONA, abogado, * Puerto Principe, Camagüey 1859 + La Habana 1932 (son of :)
          • Melchior BATISTA y CABALLERO, regidor of Puerto Principe, * Puerto Principe, Camagüey, ~ 10 VI 1813 + Puerto Principe 8 XI 1890 (son of :)
            • Francisco Xavier BATISTA y ZAYAS-BAZÁN, regidor of Santa Maria de Puerto Principe (son of :)
              • Don Melchior BATISTA y BOZA, alférez mayor (standard-bearer or lieutenant/chief militia officer) of Santa Maria de Puerto Principe, + Santa Maria de Puerto Principe, 4 I 1798 (son of :)
                • Don Pedro BATISTA y SUERO m. Puerto Principe, 30 X 1700, D. Ana BOZA y NUÑÉZ (son and daughter-in-law of :)
                  • Don Melchior BATISTA m. Ana SUERO
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Maria Teresa, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg

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Does Maria Teresa hold the titles Duchess of Nassau, Princess of Bourbon-Parma, Countess Palatine of the Rhine, Count of Sayn, Konigstein, Katzenelnbogen and Diez Burgrave of Hammerstein, Lady of Mahlberg, Wiesbaden, Idstein, Merenberg, Limburg and Eppstein and Does she belong to royal house Luxembourg-Nassau (by marriage) Otters2023 (talk) 00:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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