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GA preb

Will ask a friend of mine for some copyedits and then nominate this article for GA-status. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 00:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedits are done. Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 22:26, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk · contribs) 23:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Prose

DAB Link to Wedlock
- Done, linked to marriage. Kierzek (talk) 00:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Add the "Persondata" template to the bottom of the article.
- Done Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Add an infobox. (suggestion only)
- I thought about it, but given the shortness of the article and few facts we know for sure about her, I decided not to. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The article is partially copied from web source #1
- There is no copy + paste nor close paragraphing The source in question, however, is the best I got on her so naturally I exploited it as much as I could. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Note that she almost run over by a truck. (suggestion only) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk • contribs) 17:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)~~ [reply]
- Got a source or something? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 11:14, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - The first source noted.--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 11:25, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Huh? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 21:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage

More about early life?
- She is (or was) mainly known for being a victory icon. Lots of details about her life has not sufficed. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
When did she die?
- Is not known. That is to say, I can't find anything about it anywhere. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are there anymore sources?
- This is the only sources about Maria Limanskaya. Not of great historical importance. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Passing, Well done.--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 18:27, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

Some suggestions to improve this article:
1. Add her full name in english. It can be obtained from the German or Russian wiki pages.
2. add her death date
3. add an {{Infobox military}}. It can be copied from the Russian wiki page.
If it's possible, also upload her image to Wikimedia, so we can use it in other languages.Faltur (talk) 00:47, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong photograph (movie still actually)

I propose that is Lydia Andreyevna Larisa Ovcharenko [nee Spivak]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.108.27.26 (talk) 20:00, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

-- Yes. Maria Limanskaya was another traffick maneger, they confused Lydia Spivak with Maria. The woman in the photo is Lydia Spivak and she died in 1984! I hope they will change this. --94Falco94 (talk) 16:40, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Change of Identity for Maria Limanskaya

Dear People at Wikipedia, I’m Stephen W. Richey. This is my first time posting here at Wikipedia, so, kindly accept my apologies if I am doing something wrong in how I am making this posting. I most respectfully offer the following to the topic of Maria Limanskaya: If one spends enough time searching through the Internet, it becomes evident that there is mass confusion regarding the true name of the Soviet female soldier directing traffic in front of Brandenburg Gate whose actions and words were recorded in a motion picture with audio. This situation becomes obvious if one watches, and reads the comments following, the dozen or so renditions of this motion picture posted on Youtube. The confusion stems from the fact that while one Soviet female soldier in front of Brandenburg Gate appears in the motion picture with audio, at least two, perhaps more, different Soviet female soldiers are depicted in still photos, also performing traffic control duties in front of Brandenburg Gate. I have watched about a dozen renditions of the motion picture on Youtube, I have engaged in message board conversations with interested people on Youtube, and I have followed links from Youtube to various Russian-language webpages. I conclude that Maria Limanskaya was the soldier shown directing traffic in front of Brandenburg Gate in a still photo. The name of the soldier in the motion picture with audio was actually Lydia Spivak, married name Ovcharenko. The link below will take you to a Russian-language website about Lydia Spivak-Ovcharenko. Using Google Translate with this link confirms the position regarding Lydia's actual name I stated above. Signed: Stephen W. Richey, March 31, 2017 Stephen W. Richey (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC) http://zurnalist.io.ua/s1197897/devushka_pobedy_hozyaykoy_brandenburgskih_vorot_v_mae_45-go_byla_zaporojanka_lidiya_ovcharenko[reply]

Someone need fix that pic

That girl on the pic is Lydia Spivak-Ovcharenko, here u can see the real photo from Maria http://stat8.blog.ru/lr/0b28167c76d87ce2ca88a39ed14c9087 Maybe is the most stupid historic mistake about the WW2.

Maria Limanskaya with old age and a photo holding a portrait with she in WW2 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/39/9a/21/399a210855b519cce024a6b50526d520.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 666Marduk666 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

I don't know how this article passed a GAR. If it wasn't a GA article, I would assess it Start class - Boneyard90 (talk) 00:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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