Talk:Maria Clara gown

Refimprove tag

@MarkH21: Can you clarify the "sourcing issues"? From what I can see, it's mostly sourced albeit haphazardly, nothing that can't be fixed with copyediting, thus templating seems unnecessary.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 14:27, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@Obsidian Soul: There are three entire paragraphs in “Modernization” without any citations, as well as several sentences in “Traditional components” that appear to have no citations (e.g. the mid-paragraph citations in the long middle paragraph suggests that the other sentences are unsourced). It’s also not clear if entire paragraphs with a single citation at the end are actually from the single source or if only parts of the paragraph are, but there’s enough missing from what I just pointed out for me to tag it. I can place cn tags if that makes it clearer — MarkH₂₁^talk 16:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@MarkH21: Commented out the first two paragraphs, since they're a bit vague anyway and need clarification. Removed the paragraph on the "world-class" stuff as it's entirely unencyclopedic. And yeah, a cn tag would be better if the problem is only part of the article. I dislike the big full article templates per WP:OVERTAG, personally. No one really fixes them anyway. They're vague, intrusive, and they stay on articles forever. I've improved the lead for this article in the past, I might continue fixing it in the future since it's a high-importance article for the Philippines. The remaining text seems to be fine, just needs copyediting on the sourcing.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 18:04, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@Obsidian Soul: I generally agree with that essay, but I find refimprove can be a useful tag for editors passing by to resolve issues if they can (as in this case), and as a warning for those reading the material. With your latest edits, just a few cns will do the trick as there are only relatively small portions left with unclear sourcing. — MarkH₂₁^talk 04:38, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

@MarkH21: Alright. Cheers.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 05:26, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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