Talk:Margaret Gardiner (Miss Universe)

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Hello, Margaret Gardiner enthusiasts! This is just a heads-up to point out that there's another Margaret Gardiner (1904-2005), a supporter of the arts, see http://www.pierartscentre.com/permanentcollection.html. She fully deserves a bio on Wikipedia, and when I have the time I'd like to do something about filling this gap. So we'll have to sort out the names at some point. Cheers, Sosayso 15:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I have removed the sections about Fiorina. This article is about Margaret Gardiner, not her dressmaker. Plutonium27 (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 9 February 2022

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The result of the move request was: Margaret Gardiner (artist) moved to Margaret Gardiner (art collector). No consensus for other moves. – wbm1058 (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

– This nomination is tangentially related to yesterday's Talk:Leila Lopes (Angolan actress)#Requested move 8 February 2022. A glance at Category:Miss Universe winners confirms that, among the 72 entries, only two — the unilaterally moved Margaret Gardiner (Miss Universe) and the unilaterally moved Leila Lopes (Angolan actress) — had been given parenthetical qualifiers to enable the creation of two-entry disambiguation pages. This entry was created in January 2006 as "Margaret Gardiner" and remained as such for eight years until it was unilaterally moved in January 2014 to Margaret Gardiner (beauty queen) so that the Margaret Gardiner disambiguation page could be created. The other Margaret Gardiner — Margaret Gardiner (artist) — was not actually an artist, but an arts patron and art collector. Ultimately, Miss Universe is the world's best-known and most recognizable beauty title and the main title header — Margaret Gardiner (Miss Universe) — should be restored to its primary position per WP:RETAIN. A hatnote atop her entry, pointing to Margaret Gardiner (art collector) would suffice. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose 1st, Support 2nd. No primary topic, but she wasn't actually an artist. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 1st, support 3rd, not convinced there's a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The disambiguator for the artist should be fixed, sure.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Showiecz (talk) 19:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No opinion on the primary topic, but Margaret Gardiner (artist) is clearly not a good disambiguator; support moving her to Margaret Gardiner (art collector) (or Margaret Gardiner (political activist), or really any other vaguely sensible suggestion).

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Post-move observation

While doing a significant amount of post-move cleanup, I noticed something significant and interesting. The Sculptress (film), a biographical film about Barbara Hepworth currently in production, stars Rhiannon Drake, playing the role of Margaret Gardiner. So her notability and page views are going to get a significant bump in the relatively near future. I'd argue that she is already a primary-topic candidate based on long-term significance (her legacy, the Pier Arts Centre). – wbm1058 (talk) 23:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]