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I'm not sure about the second theory: (2) the tribe has taken on the name of a Roman captain named Marcus Romanus who deserted the legions of Drusus during his German campaign in c. 13 BC, and is thought to have banded together a ragtag group of Germanic tribes into a cohesive fighting force (see POMOERIVM, vol.3, 1998). Not only would Marcus Romanus have been commonly referred to as "Romanus" (praenomina were regarded as being less important and are frequently omitted), but is it really likely that a Roman captain could have pulled together a group of tribes into what was a cohesive empire just fifteen to twenty years later? (Note that Tacitus apparently views the Marcomanni as one tribe, explicitly stating others that were part of their empire.) Well, I suppose you had to mention the second theory to be encyclopedic. What is the source, though? --Helmold 18:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Don't forget the title which originated from German Markgraves- MarquisEdelward (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

→Marco-Manni in ancient Gaulish means "Horse Men." Maro-boduus in Gaulish means "Great Raven." The Marcomanni were woefully obviously a rebranding of the Celtic Boii country that had occupied the exact same landmass since time immemorial. There is no evidence whatsoever pointing to them being ruled by a Roman deserter, or the perpetually aggrandized "ethnic" Germans. No cartoonish fantasies about Aryan godmen or Russel Crowe Roman commandos are needed for this puzzle piece to fit into the greater spectrum of history. Bloody Sacha (talk) 12:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spain?

Where are there references to Early Celtic Spain and Portugal here? Jorgenpfhartogs 14:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, what do you mean? The Ogre 15:04, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

I think the last battle of the war in 180 AD shortly just before Marcus Aurelius death was against Quadi ..--Blain Toddi (talk) 08:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bavarians

It should be mentioned that the Marcomanni are thought to have formed the core of the Bavarians after moving out of Bohemia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.171.168.80 (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Men on the mark

I remember reading that Marcomanni naming was meant by ancient Germanics as opposed to Allemanni.Marcomanni meant men with mark ,which is in Germanic means a piece of land ,marked as a property of its owner. While Marcomanni were men with the land,in the meaning estates or farms ,Allemanni were shifting and looking for lands to settle.Edelward (talk) 11:36, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The words "Marco" and "Manni" exist in known recorded Gaulish. Together the words mean "Horse Men" and like the names of most Gaulish countries they describe the type, condition and features of the people in its ruling class. Each of the recorded rulers of the Marcomanni also have Gaulish names. Most of these names like Maroboduus, Catualda and Ballomar are made up of multiple Gaulish words that have a special significance when combined. "Great Raven", "One who Battles" "More Glory" ext.

The country of the Marcomanii is known to have existed in the former territory of the Boii nation and the exact date that the Boii "disappear" is effectively within 24 months of the Marcomanni "appearing." There are no known invasions/migrations/battles to signify the disappearance of the Boii or the appearance of the Marcomanni.

The most likely scenario by an extremely wide margin is that after repeated battles against Rome and Dacia what remained of the ancient Boii state elected/turned to new leaders, formed a new confederation and began to operate under a new brand name. Rome may have even been responsible for this as the Gaulish named, "Maroboduus" had spent much of his first twenty one years as a guest in Italy.

In any event, however novel it may be there should never be any contest between a known/confirmed/archeologically existent language and a "reconstructed" "proto" language. As it is the Marcomanni were beyond any shadow of a doubt a Gaulish country that may have acquired some Dacian, Asian Steppe or Scandinavian migratory elements. Bloody Sacha (talk) 10:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia we are only aiming to summarize what is really published in the best sources, so please bring sources for any proposals.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:45, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]