Talk:Marcia Hutchinson

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Introductory line is non-compliant

I recall that Wikipedia's standards require that references to a person's race and sexuality should be reserved for the later sections of the article, eg "Early life" or "Personal life." If this is so, the first line should not be "Marcia Ann Hutchinson.....is a British writer...of African Caribbean descent." It should be changed to "Marcia Ann Hutchinson MBE (born 11 December 1962) is a British writer, publisher and politician." The fact that she is of African Caribbean descent should be reserved for the early life section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dena.walemy (talk • contribs) 11:28, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the article open for misinterpretation

So reading this line: "Pat Karney said all of the allegations made by Marcia were found to be untrue – but he was 'sad to see her go'.", I worry there's room for misinterpretation.

This comes across as extremely abrupt, and serves as a direct rebuttal, and the way it's worded makes it almost seem like this is a definitive source, however in reality this is just a quote from an MP in a newspaper: This isn't an official finding, and I worry following up with an uncited quote from a figure about how "All these allegations were untrue" makes it seem like this article is saying the allegations she made was untrue.

In a discussion as sensitive as whether a Labour Party member faced racism, I would say we kind of having duty to not make it seem as though we're definitively taking a side unless there's hard evidence available.

Perhaps we could include this quote, but make it more obvious that it's just a quote and not an official finding? Alternatively include another response included in the article? IDK, open to suggestions here. DoricSpengler (talk) 22:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]