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His family

Married to Pamela Soame, former member of Parliment, and has three children.

Still

Anyone know if he is still Honourary Captain of the Royal Canadian Sea Cadets?Quadra 22:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somthing wrong

the first paragraph has wrong info. he was the first Canadian in space in 1984, not in 2007.--62.202.16.129 (talk) 16:59, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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What are marc garneaus contributions to space? Rittu64 (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

== Contributions ==

WHAT ARE HIS CONTRIBUTIONS AND UNDERSTANDINGS OF SPACE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rittu64 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 02:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 23:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Reference named "CSA":

From Montreal: "CSA Headquarters". Contact Us. Canadian Space Agency. Archived from the original on July 18, 2008. Retrieved August 1, 2008.
From Maritime Monitoring and Messaging Microsatellite: "CSA - Maritime Monitoring and Messaging Microsatellite". Canadian Space Agency. 4 March 2013. Retrieved 2013-10-01.

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POV edits

@Mikeconnan: please stop adding the same thing you have added three times now due to it being highly editorialized. Feel free to put things within the article to explain what the government did (or didn't) do during COVID-19 pandemic, but you aren't giving a balanced image of what happened. I still have concerns about WP:PAID but I'll assume good faith. Also pinging @Paul Erik: due to them having the same concerns as me. Thanks, Sixula^Talk 16:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sixula: TO SIXULA : Please read more carefully before saying I keep adding the same thing. Following your edit, I actually cut the original text in half and made sure it was using a more neutral tone. I dont know how you can make accusations of me being paid to do it, while the content is simply a very diluted compilation of the subject actions (or lack of); maybe you are just uninformed of the actuality (and would benefit reading the included sources), or maybe you are some kind of politic fan of the subject trying to censor for his benefit. Anyhow, I suggest you learn and read a little more about the subject before playing the sherif. Thanks/Mike.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeconnan (talk • contribs)

@Mikeconnan: The most recent addition was not in keeping with WP:SYNTH. Most of the sources did not even mention Marc Garneau. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have an objection to adding something about the pressures that Garneau faced to offer financial help to airlines. It's just that it needs policy-compliant sourcing: not to articles that make no mention of Garneau; also, not to opinion columns. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Paul Erik, we can add something for sure, it's just that most of the sources are either opinion pieces or are sources which don't have anything to due with Canada. And by the way, Mikeconnan, I am not "censoring" for his benefit. Simply put, I would just like to be neutral about what happened. In fact, there is no mention of the one billion dollar wage subsidy which the government provided or the reasoning behind keeping the funds away (spoiler alert: it's because the airlines didn't refund Canadians). And before you accuse me of saying I'm bias towards this politician, it's quite the opposite, I actually believe they haven't done enough to keep Canadian airlines afloat. But that doesn't matter, what matters is that we maintain a neutral tone and explain both sides of the story, and put simply, your paragraph was not up to it. I would be happy to work with you on creating a neutral paragraph. Thanks, Sixula^Talk 18:11, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sixula:@Paul Erik: Ok guys, a little about me before I carry on : I am an old airline pilot directly affected by the minister lack of actions, so have some difficulty to stay neutral ... but I agree that Wikipedia is not a forum to express frustrations. You guys have been courteous so I think we can work on something that will be a clean, Wikipedian, neutral chapter. But keep in mind that I am old fellow : what I am telling you is very realistic from the field, but at the same time am not the best Wikipedian so I can be weak on some policies and coding. So here is what I suggest : let me breed a few days, review my sources so they will comply with Paul Erik observations and I will rewrite something trying to be as neutral as possible. I will not include it immediately in Garneau's page, but instead submit it to you here and you guys can look at it, maybe suggest some corrections (regarding content, sources, tone or syntax) and when we all agree that it contains at least the bare minimum while respecting Wikipedia policies, then I will post it. Sounds good ?

@Mikeconnan: ah, now I get it. I understand your frustrations; honestly, the reason I suspected PAID was because of the somewhat bad grammar and the one-tilted view of it (and also I adore flying and Air Canada is my airline, so it pains me to see them struggling). I think your idea of submitting here is great and if you wish, you can already start working on it now. Thanks, Sixula^Talk 23:15, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]