Talk:Manuel García (tenor)
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[edit]For the history of this article, see Manuel del Popolo Vicente García. Articles which are wrongly named should be moved, not copied and pasted into a completely new page, as has been done here. Xn4 22:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Role of Jago in Rossini's Otello
[edit]Weinstock (1987, p. 497) says the following about the premiere cast of Rossini's Otello: "The first libretto shows Ciccimarra as Jago, but its creation often is credited to Manuel Garcia. An undated Ricordi edition of Otello in the present writer's possession (plate no. 43971) assigns Jago to Garcia, "Un Gondoliere" to Ciccimarra (perhaps reflecting the 1817 San Carlo cast), and lists no singers for Emilia, the Doge, and Lucio." Thus he lists Ciccimarra as having sung Jago at the premiere in Naples. Is there a more recent reference which deals with this question more definitively? (I'm also leaving this discussion on the Otello talk page.)--Robert.Allen (talk) 01:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have at my disposal a reliable Italian book, Marco Beghelli and Nicola Gallino (ed.), Tutti i Libretti di Rossini (Milano: Garzanti, 1991), which states (p. 402) Giuseppe Ciccimarra as the first Jago. Anyway, James Radomski, in his article about García in the New Grove Dictionary of Opera, reports that “Towards the end of 1816 García and his wife returned to Paris to sing at the Théâtre Italien. Paolino in Il matrimonio segreto was the role of García’s rentrée on 16 October”. It is so to be considered most unlikely that he may have taken part in the Neapolitan première of Otello (performing a second-leading part) only some forty-five days later, just to go back again to Paris straightaway. --Jeanambr (talk) 11:09, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help. Since according to Weinstock many sources report that Garcia sang it in the premiere, perhaps we should consider adding a footnote to the Otello article role table citing these better sources and add some sort of explanation, so that other editors won't change it based on one of the incorrect sources. I could try something based on the info from Weinstock and that you have provided, or if you would like to do it, feel free. (The error you corrected in this article may be traceable to The Nuttall Encyclopedia, which was apparently used to start it.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 12:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I completely agree with your intention of inserting a footnote. Cheers. Jeanambr (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help. Since according to Weinstock many sources report that Garcia sang it in the premiere, perhaps we should consider adding a footnote to the Otello article role table citing these better sources and add some sort of explanation, so that other editors won't change it based on one of the incorrect sources. I could try something based on the info from Weinstock and that you have provided, or if you would like to do it, feel free. (The error you corrected in this article may be traceable to The Nuttall Encyclopedia, which was apparently used to start it.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 12:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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