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Interpretation of WP:LISTPEOPLE Exception

Hi User:Meters I noticed you undid my revision [1] where I had added the name Kayla Barclay to the notable alumni list because you had concerns of notability and unsourced attendance. While I agree with the subject not meeting general notability guidelines per the deletion page (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kayla Barclay), my interpretation of the exception statement under WP:LISTPEOPLE is that for lists the requirement can be satisfied by a specific event. Given that there was media coverage about her while and because she was Miss Utah,^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] I interpreted this as meeting the exemption. If this interpretation is incorrect, please let me know as I'm continuously learning about Wikipedia policy. What I couldn't find was a reliable online article that explicitly said she graduated from Manti High School, though I might could find a print somewhere. Jacobkhed (talk) 05:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have not sourced her attendance, and simply winning a beauty pageant is not sufficient to be presumed notable. Per discussions at the schools project, we don't normally accept alumni without Wikipedia articles to show their notability. Unless they would clearly qualify for an article if one were written, they don't go in without an article. You restored a non-notable entry without an attendance source, that had been removed 9 months ago on notability grounds by user:JonRidinger, an experienced editor. You probably should have asked before restoring it. Meters (talk) 06:45, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarifications and suggested reading of WP:WPSCHOOLS/AL. My notability argument was not on the grounds of winning a scholarship pageant, but rather for the significant media coverage it generated (both the event itself and later outreach). I have looked at the good articles listed in WP:WPSCHOOLS and see nearly every alumni listed on those pages has a Wikipedia article. There are a few exceptions (e.g., Carlton le Willows Academy, Hanley Castle High School, Romney Academy, Romney Classical Institute) but I can fix them. I added the entry user:JonRidinger removed because I thought with a reference added that it met WP:EXEMPT1E, I apologize for my misinterpretation. Anyways, I will not be adding the entry again because she does not meet WP:ANYBIO even if I had sourced attendance. Jacobkhed (talk) 18:40, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Meters is correct. While there are exceptions, they are very few and rare. The most frequent exception is when a school has an alum or alumni who is part of a band or group and the group has notability but the individual members don't. The basic point of alumni lists is to connect related articles, not highlight alumni. The descriptions for each alum should be short and related to the article topic (the school) since the article is about the school, not the individual. For instance, it should state when they attended and/or graduated and then very briefly why they are notable (like "professional baseball player in Major League baseball" rather than listing every team the person played for). Users who want to know more about the individual can then go to the article on the individual and get more details. --JonRidinger (talk) 21:13, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Manti woman named Miss Utah". The Salt Lake Tribune. 12 July 2008. Retrieved 2 October 2021.
^ "Miss Sanpete is crowned Miss Utah". Deseret News. 13 July 2008. Retrieved 3 October 2021.
^ Marshall, Andrew (6 August 2021). "Miss Utah overcame tribulation through prayer". Deseret News. Retrieved 3 October 2021.
^ "Former M-C resident in Miss America pageant". 21 January 2009. Retrieved 3 October 2021.
^ Heil, Emily; Brotherton, Elizabeth (13 May 2009). "Heard on the Hill: We Interrupt This Hearing". Roll Call. Retrieved 3 October 2021.

[1] "Manti woman named Miss Utah". The Salt Lake Tribune. 12 July 2008. Retrieved 2 October 2021.

[2] "Miss Sanpete is crowned Miss Utah". Deseret News. 13 July 2008. Retrieved 3 October 2021.

[3] Marshall, Andrew (6 August 2021). "Miss Utah overcame tribulation through prayer". Deseret News. Retrieved 3 October 2021.

[4] "Former M-C resident in Miss America pageant". 21 January 2009. Retrieved 3 October 2021.

[5] Heil, Emily; Brotherton, Elizabeth (13 May 2009). "Heard on the Hill: We Interrupt This Hearing". Roll Call. Retrieved 3 October 2021.

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