Talk:Manspreading
"Manspreading" is a discriminating, sexistic term, suggesting only male people would sit in an egoistic, impolite way in public transport. What about crossing legs? That is as inappropriate, for same reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.46.252.72 (talk) 11:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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This article is vague
[edit]This article is vague, the definition of the term is vague, biological and age effects are not clear, ... The practice of some men covering more than one seat. No Women is mentioned in this definition but the article says the behavior is against women because it is a way of disrespect to their personal space! Some one who is good at English may explain the problem. --Doostdar (talk) 06:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- This article should just focus on how the term originated and how it was defined by those who made it up. You MIGHT be able to also explain WHY they made it up, but any discussion beyond what I mentioned will solely be based on subjective opinions. For example, I could say as a man, it hurts to clamp one's leg's together for too long and also there are (thankfully) NO LAWS against this practice in most areas of the US. I would immediately get dozens of people then giving me their subjective opinions in response and showing how people have been targeted. While both sides in this example may have validity, an objective view of the entire world or US would probably find this "issue" to be confined to a few urban areas at most and not the widespread pandemic and global health crisis that some here are making it out to be. 2600:1700:8F60:E580:E136:96BA:46E4:ED67 (talk) 17:23, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Historical Descriptions of Manspreading
[edit]Is it relevant to include examples where the phenomenon of manspreading was described in earlier literature, even if the specific word was not used? If so, Fyodor Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov has a mention. From the Bantam Classic translation by Andrew R. MacAndrew, Part 3, Chapter 9, titled "They Take Him Away":
Finally the rural police officer climbed into the cart next to Mitya. He sat down heavily and spread out his legs, pushing against Mitya as he installed himself, without appearing to notice.
I'll defer to more experience Wikipedia editors whether this is worth adding. I imagine there are other examples in literature. FirewagonHockeyFan (talk) 20:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Potentially Western-centric Point of View
[edit]It could be relevant to emphatize that manspreading is not that prominent in asian countries (especially Eastern Asia) due to both anatomical and social factors. In Japan, for example, both manspreading and mansplaining are intrinsically rude and frowned upon regardless of one's gender - it is expected that you give space to others in the train, as well as to listen carefully someone to the end before beginning talking. The shorter stature and different grammar contribute to these expectations. Yet, most of the debates or statistical studies about both subjects are centered on phenomena from American or European countries, so I wondered if that would hurt the article's social neutrality. 2400:4051:8DA2:F200:282F:9D33:DA3:30AA (talk) 00:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Men’s Health - Body Size vs Construction of Public Transport Seating
[edit]Why doesn’t this article discuss basic needs, like that men in general just happen to have bigger bodies and the transportation industry is increasingly shrinking to seats on public transport vehicles to a size that has been documented to be unhealthy? This seat shrink phenomenon is well documented. It’s even more unhealthy for men who happen to have bigger bodies most of the time. 69.75.0.170 (talk) 04:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC)