Talk:Mama Lu's Dumpling House

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Feedback request from G11 nom

My writing needs work, so I can see why Celestina007 tagged this {{G11}}. I also may have missed some critical reviews in my search. I plan to thoroughly review the {{Find sources}} templates I've left above once meatspace calms down.

Celestina007, I would greatly appreciate specific feedback about any in-depth coverage in reliable, secondary sources I may have missed or about the wording. Happy New Year! --Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable secondary sources for improving the article

"Monterey Park Chinese restaurant obtained namesake dumplings from unapproved source and other health inspections in the San Gabriel Valley" from Pasadena Star-News
"Chinese food and dumplings for every taste at Mama’s in San Gabriel" from the San Gabriel Valley Tribune
"Fire Engine Slams Into and Destroys Lu Dumpling House" from Eater
"Seven Foods To Celebrate The Chinese New Year And Where To Get Them In L.A." from Southern California Public Radio
an article about where to eat in the San Gabriel Valley from The Los Angeles Times
"The 8 Best Soup Dumpling Shops In Los Angeles" from Southern California Public Radio
"Where To Find LA's Best Chinese Soup Dumplings" from Eater
"Fire truck crash victim to get $15M settlement from Alhambra, Monterey Park" from Pasadena Star-News
"Mama Lu's Dumpling House works overtime to meet Lunar New Year demand" from KPCC
"Mama Lu Dumpling House in Monterey Park worth the wait" from San Gabriel Valley Tribune
"Home style specialties shine at Mama Lu’s Dumpling House" from Tiger
"TAKE A BAO: XIAO LONG BAO AT MAMA'S LU" from LA Weekly

Missvain (talk) 01:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 19:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not expanded fivefold; closing as unsuccessful

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... that the two Mama Lu's Dumpling Houses on the same street in the same city are not affiliated with each other? Sources: "the Mama Lu's at 501 W. Garvey Ave. in Monterey Park, has no connection to the Lus or the charges against them" (Shatkin 2021). "There are Mama Lu's Dumpling House locations at 501 W Garvey Ave, Ste 101, Monterey Park...and at 153 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park" (Loc 2017)

Comment: Due to offline circumstances, I anticipate being more responsive around mid-December. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maw Htun Aung

5x expanded by Rotideypoc41352 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 22 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Rotideypoc41352: I'm afraid this article doesn't yet meet the "newness" requirement. It was moved into mainspace on 28 December 2019, so it needs either to be promoted to Good Article or to meet the fivefold expansion requirements. I have used the DYKcheck tool to check this position and it currently has 2510 characters of prose. Seven days before the nomination, it had 886 characters of prose, and therefore would have needed 4430 characters of prose to meet the fivefold requirement.

Some additional comments:

The article is a bit confusing. Which restaurant is it about, or is it about both? The first sentence suggests it is about two restaurants ("are two independently-operated Chinese restaurants"), then the next couple of sentences, and the rest of the article, appear to only be about one of the restaurants ("As of 2018, it is very popular"). This probably would need to be clarified.
A QPQ would need adding, I think.
I haven't checked the sourcing for the article generally given the above, but the hook sourcing does appear to check out.

Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 00:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I had hoped to expand the article 5x by 29 November 2021, but that did not happen; I do not anticipate expanding the article by 5x in the next week. Hopefully, you can at least claim this review as a QPQ.

The article was originally written before the ownership structure of the two Mama Lu's (not counting restaurants with similar but different names) became clear. Now that there's official word that the two have operated independently since 2015, I'm not super sure on how to split the article—some post-2015 sources fail to specify which Mama Lu's they are discussing.

Regardless, that is a topic for the article talk proper. In the spirit of keeping the DYK nom queue manageable, I have done a QPQ. Thank you again for your review. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no worries, real life taking over often happens. :) I'll strike it in that case but all the best with improving it in the future (my suggestion FWIW would be to keep it as one article for both, if there's coverage of both, but just to explain the background a bit more and identify where the sources aren't clear?) Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 04:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]