Talk:Malcolm London

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COI & NPOV

Recent edits by IP editors and user Qu3stionThatN33dAnsw3rs, who claims to be the subject of the article, seem questionably neutral and sourced.

Descriptors like "internationally recognized" and claims like "London brings vim and vigor to his energetic performances tackling tough contemporary issues head on." and "Malcolm London is called the Gil Scott-Heron of this generation by Cornel West", are dubiously neutral and are either unsourced or copied from self-published sources.

Multiple paragraphs added to the Malcolm_London#Politics section don't site any sources, and the sources the Malcolm_London#Accountability section is quoting from seem to be self-published.

I think the article in it's current state needs a lot of work to be up to WP:BLP standards, though I'm not sure whether reverting to 1047352591 would be appropriate? The "Sexual assault allegations" section in that revision doesn't state exactly what its sources do, which seems like a big deal for such a big allegation in a WP:BLP article. In the current revision that section has been replaced with what amounts to basically a self-published statement though. Davepeta (talk) 23:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this articled stated the subject had been arrested for sexual assault allegations and I could not find a reliable source beyond tabloids or twitter posts. I replaced a section with the BLP source code in an attempt to rectify. Please advise. GenZXY (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject was arrested in 2015 but it seems they were charged with assault and battery of a police officer. When I looked into the sexual assault allegations I could only find self published articles or things on social media. I do not concur that the subject ever was involved with the legal system at all. Please advise. I have heavy concerns considering the nature of the section. GenZXY (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Please remember that one of Wikipedia's core policies is that we do not conduct original research. Please cite a source that states that he did not in fact get arrested for sexual assault. I will be sure to add it in at that point. Cheers! Fake scientist 8000 16:33, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://news.wttw.com/2015/11/25/charges-dropped-against-activist-poet-arrested-during-laquan-mcdonald-protest , https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-aspiring-poet-and-protest-organizer-among-those-arrested-during-loop-video-protest-20151125-story.html, https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/charges-dropped-against-popular-poet-arrested-during-laquan-mcdonald-march GenZXY (talk) 16:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Done I have added a new section regarding his assault. Hopefully this satisfies your needs. Cheers! Fake scientist 8000 16:42, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Sorry I'm having trouble understanding how these links act as correct sources when none of them verify him being arrested for sexual assault. These are indeed mislead and incorrect. Please help me understand the reasoning here. GenZXY (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  The "Sexual assault allegations" section in that revision doesn't state exactly what its sources do, which seems like a big deal for such a big allegation in a WP:BLP article. GenZXY (talk) 16:59, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  
  I feel this section violates BLP GenZXY (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  
  The edit you made is incorrect and states the subject was arrested twice for two different things in 2015. Please correct. GenZXY (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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GenZXY (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC) Please change[reply]

Note: This is blocked as a sock of the person mentioned above Happy Editing--IAm Chaos 20:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual assault allegations

In 2015, London was arrested for sexually assaulting a woman in 2012.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

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Arrests

In 2015, London was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer during a protest. All charges were dropped.^[5]

In 2019, London was arrested by the Chicago Police department again. This time a video caught the incident on camera. London was released and filed a lawsuit.^[6]

References

^ "Malcolm London Dedicated Life to Activism: Now, He's Accused of Sex Assault".
^ "Black Youth Project 100 suspends a Chicago leader after sexual assault allegation". 3 December 2015.
^ "Time's up: "Surviving R. Kelly" spurs sexual assault survivors to speak out". 14 January 2019.
^ "For poet and activist Malcolm London, words are no longer enough". 30 March 2018.
^ https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/charges-dropped-against-popular-poet-arrested-during-laquan-mcdonald-march. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2020/6/1/21277429/chicago-protests-george-floyd-black-lives-matter-police-misconduct-lightfoot-brown. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Not done: Concerns over COI violation in light of confirmed sockpuppetry removing COI tags, apart from that, the sources provided contradict each other and since it's a contentious matter a change would this would require WP:CONSENSUS anyways. ★Ama ^TALK ^CONTRIBS 14:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag (April 2022)

See here. Cheers! Fake scientist 8000 03:37, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

Pending review for reliability, the following sources may be useful in expanding the entry, in accordance with the WP:Due weight policy.^[1] ^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6] Self-published and other non-fact-checked sources are not acceptable references for controversial material. Innisfree987 (talk) 07:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Malcolm London Dedicated Life to Activism: Now, He's Accused of Sex Assault". DNAinfo Chicago. Retrieved 2023-01-29.
^ Moore, Taylor (2021-07-21). "A silence louder than words". Chicago Reader. Retrieved 2023-01-29.
^ Walden, Tiffany (2020-12-28). "Black Folks Can't Get No Rest • The TRiiBE". The TRiiBE. Retrieved 2023-01-29.
^ Johnson, Javon (2017). Killing poetry : blackness and the making of slam and spoken word communities. New Brunswick. ISBN 978-0-8135-8004-3. OCLC 1000521339.
^ "What the White Boy Wants". Chicago Magazine. Retrieved 2023-01-29.
^ "CPS suspends partnership with Young Chicago Authors after group accused of doing little about sexual assault allegations". Chicago Sun-Times. 2021-03-06. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

[1] "Malcolm London Dedicated Life to Activism: Now, He's Accused of Sex Assault".

[2] "Black Youth Project 100 suspends a Chicago leader after sexual assault allegation". 3 December 2015.

[3] "Time's up: "Surviving R. Kelly" spurs sexual assault survivors to speak out". 14 January 2019.

[4] "For poet and activist Malcolm London, words are no longer enough". 30 March 2018.

[5] ttps://www.fox32chicago.com/news/charges-dropped-against-popular-poet-arrested-during-laquan-mcdonald-march. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[6] ttps://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2020/6/1/21277429/chicago-protests-george-floyd-black-lives-matter-police-misconduct-lightfoot-brown. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[7] "Malcolm London Dedicated Life to Activism: Now, He's Accused of Sex Assault". DNAinfo Chicago. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

[:3-8] Moore, Taylor (2021-07-21). "A silence louder than words". Chicago Reader. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

[9] Walden, Tiffany (2020-12-28). "Black Folks Can't Get No Rest • The TRiiBE". The TRiiBE. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

[10] Johnson, Javon (2017). Killing poetry : blackness and the making of slam and spoken word communities. New Brunswick. ISBN 978-0-8135-8004-3. OCLC 1000521339.

[11] "What the White Boy Wants". Chicago Magazine. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

[12] "CPS suspends partnership with Young Chicago Authors after group accused of doing little about sexual assault allegations". Chicago Sun-Times. 2021-03-06. Retrieved 2023-01-29.

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