Talk:Malamanteau

Protected edit request on 5 January 2014

I don't want it created (couldn't find a parameter to change that in the template), just redirected to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xkcd#Themes instead. "Malamanteau" is only mentioned in that section, so it makes more sense there. The Human Spellchecker (talk) 03:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

We generally do not redirect to sections in an article. In this case, it would skip the context of the term by bypassing the article as a whole. — Edokter (talk) — 10:36, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Reset to ((edit protected|Malamanteau|answered=no)): +1 @User:Spellcheck:

Not to link to the subsection doesn't make sense:

1) nobody knows the reason for the redirection and not everyone knows how to use the browser's search feature;

2) everyone can decide on his/her own to scroll to the top – the knowledge of scroll bar usage is widely spread;

3) possibly the text between the beginning and the linked section is in case of redirection no matter of interest – if so, see point 2);

4) redirecting to subsections is due to above reasons good practice in most other wikipedias…

--Carbenium (talk) 12:05, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is appropriate. Linking to that section would drop readers in the middle of an article and leave them wondering why they were there. (It's not till the third paragraph that the term is mentioned.) I think it is fair enough if the title of the section is obviously what you were looking for (e.g. Founding of Bucharest takes you to History of Bucharest#Foundation - no problem there) but it is less obvious in this case. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:44, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Reset to ((edit protected|Malamanteau|answered=no)): Thanks for your answer, Martin – I see yout point, BUT: So the user "has to" read all that history stuff that doesn't matter to him – at least three screen pages. Since it makes no sense to set an own subsection "Malamanteau", it could be a productive compromise not to link to "Themes" but to "Recurring items". That should be self explanatory enough to avoid leaving the reader wondering about the redirect aim. Possibly it makes sense to enhance the text in that subsection so it tells the reader he/she is reading about xkcd web comics – a few words should do it… --Carbenium (talk) 15:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@Edokter: You say "we generally do not redirect to sections in an article"; but we have lots of redirects to sections. Here are 36,000 of them; and that's just the ones marked with {{R to section}} or equivalent. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Out of how many redirects in total? I did say "generally". Also, note the only way to reach this page is if one has actually read the xkcd comic, so a redirect to the comic as a whole is not that strange. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 20:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't really have an opinion on this. But I don't believe there is consensus yet. Please do not reactivate unless there is consensus on how to change the redirect. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

It should clearly redirect to the section. XKCD is not a relevant result. Themes in XKCD is the relevant redirect. SPACKlick (talk) 11:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

You would likely have just come from xkcd itself. Iamahashtag (talk) 16:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 July 2015

Point the redirect to Xkcd#Recurring items, just like Malamanteaux. Sovereign Sentinel (talk) 09:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 09:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected Edit Request on July 30

Move the target of the redirect to xkcd#themes, since this relates to parodies of Wikipedia, one of xkcd's themes. Iamahashtag (talk) 21:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done, it was just redirected in the previous section. Nakon 03:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 April 2016

Examples for malamanteau:

• Malamanteau
• Trigonometry

Malamanteau is a wrongly generated portmanteau of "malapropism" and "portmanteau". 89.132.226.116 (talk) 11:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Suggest you make your suggested changes in xkcd — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:17, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 May 2016

Change the redirect to Xkcd#Recurring Themes as Xkcd#Recurring Items no longer exists. Yenwodyah (talk) 03:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

 Done changed to Xkcd#Recurring_themes. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:22, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Where is the article?

"Malamanteau" redirects to an article on "Xkcd" which seems to have nothing to do with the term other than to have used it in a comic strip, once. Shouldn't there be an article on the word itself, with a definition, etymology, and a few examples? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 20:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malamanteau. --Gerrit ^CUTEDH 15:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Hmm... so there was an article and it got deleted. Still not really sure why. A search for the term on Google gets 11,000 hits, and it's been proposed for inclusion in the Collins Dictionary, so apparently the term is actually being used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 November 2020

Please add the following rcats, to harmonize with e.g. Malamenteau:

{{Rcat shell|
{{R to related topic}}
{{R to section}}
{{R printworthy}}
}}

(I'm not 100% sure if it should be printworthy or unprintworthy. But the other two definitely should be there.) Pokechu22 (talk) 06:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:09, 18 November 2020 (UTC)