Talk:Major League (film)
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Incorrect chronology
[edit]The article is wrong on the chronology of the events of the bottom of the ninth inning, in the 2nd last paragraph of the plot. I just watched it once again on DVD, and here's what actually happens. In the bottom of the ninth, Hayes doesn't bat until Cleveland's 2nd hitter of the inning hits a long fly ball to the wall, but is caught for the 2nd out. It is at THAT TIME, New York brings out "The Duke", their feared closer. Then Hayes hits an infield chopper which he beats out for a single. The rest of the paragraph is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.83.216.228 (talk) 09:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also in that section, just earlier in the chronology, it says "Cerrano is finally able to hit a curveball for a home run" however this is not true. It is well narrated by playcaller Harry Doyle (Uecker) that the pitcher, Jackson, asks the catcher for a different sign, indicating he is not content to throw another curveball. It is easily inferred that the next pitch is a fastball, which Pedro takes yard. 24.52.85.106 (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Restaraunt in the Film
[edit]According to IMDB.com, the restaraunt in the film was at the time an actual restaraunt in Milwaukee, which has undergone a few other uses before it's current use as a Baptist church. Does anyone know what restaraunt this is/was? It's familiar, but we just can't quite place it.
Dubbing?
[edit]Do we really need the section on dubbing in this article? It strikes me as rather unneccessary.DC 17:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not so in love with the section that I'm going to put it back in. But it seemed like a nifty bit of trivia to me. And countless articles on Wikipedia have lengthy sections devoted to trivia, even though trivia, by definition, is something that no article really "needs." It's just fun to have. Drysarcasm 06:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- More is good, less is bad The Green Fish 12:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Two changes in the Trivia section of the article; Wiki-fied the paragraph about Milwaukee connections, and Wiki-fied and added some information regarding Mr. 3000.DC 16:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Charlie Sheen's fastball
[edit]Casting section mentions Charlie Sheen's real life fastball topping out at 95mph at the time of filming, while the trivia section just says high 80s. I guess both could be true, but clarification would help if anyone knows for sure.76.190.164.114 08:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
2006 Marlins
[edit]I don't like the inclusion of the comparison with the 2006 Florida Marlins. Sure both teams did much better than expected, but that happens to some degree nearly every season for some team. It doesn't seem there is a compelling reason to include them instead of one of many other underdog teams. Mickeyg13 23:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Gosh, sounds like a bit o' garbage to me. 85 is zipping right along an rare in amateur baseball circles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.200.240.36 (talk) 21:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
OR?
[edit]Can anybody verify any of the production notes with actual citations? Between that section and the "Comparisons with Bull Durham" part, this article is loaded with original research. Really needs a cleanup, but the only way I see to do it right now would remove about half the article. I'd rather see if we can substantiate some of the assertions and incorporate them into the article proper. SixFourThree (talk) 21:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree
- Okay, it's been a year, and no help. I'm removing the "Comparisons with Bull Durham" section - if anybody can supply a source for these claims, then please put it back in. SixFourThree (talk) 14:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)SixFourThree
All White Fans in the Stands
[edit]Just watched the end of the movie this evening and noticed that during shots of the crowd, all of the fans were white. I believe the final game with the Yankees was filmed at a stadium in Milwaukee and wonder if anyone knows why the park had no minority fans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.111.242.2 (talk) 06:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
This article seems to have a lot of original research and opinions.
[edit]This article seems to have a lot of original research and opinions about things. There are several statements in the article that have no sources. Here is one example- The filmmakers chose the Cleveland Indians as their example of a notorious losing franchise because the actual Indians had a very similar history of futility—the franchise was the butt of many jokes and fit in perfectly with the premise of the film. There are no sources for this at all and saying the franchise was the butt of many jokes is definitely pushing POV. These kind of statements seem like original research,or someones opinion. I am going to remove statements like the example that I gave.--99.177.248.92 (talk) 22:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Also this whole paragraph is going to go as well-While it is not known if there was any inspiration taken from this source, the attempt by an owner to manipulate a roster to create the worst team possible actually was done with a Cleveland baseball team, in 1899, when Frank Robison, then owner of the National League's Cleveland Spiders, sent almost all of the Spiders' major league caliber players to another team he had simultaneously purchased (owning more than one franchise was allowed in baseball at this time) and thus left the Spiders as effectively a minor league team for the season. It was apparently an act of revenge against the fans of Cleveland after several seasons of falling attendance figures. There was no storybook poetic justice ending to the real life version, however; the 1899 Cleveland Spiders finished 20-134, the worst single season record in baseball history.
There are no sources for this,it even states as much in the paragraph-"While it is not known if there was any inspiration taken from this source." There isn't even a source. I just don't want anyone to think I am going around blanking paragraphs for fun. But statements with no sources and statements that read as opinion they have to go.--99.177.248.92 (talk) 22:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
The section "Life imitates art" needs to go as well.
Life imitated art in the 2007 season, when continuous snowfall and cold led Major League Baseball to transfer an entire three-game series between the Indians and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, including the Indians' home opener, to Miller Park, forcing the real-life Indians to play three "home games" in Milwaukee. When Cleveland closing pitcher Joe Borowski entered in the ninth inning of the first game of the series, "Wild Thing" was played in the stadium, much to the delight of the 19,031 fans in attendance, as a tribute to the situation.[1] In a bizarre coincidence, this game was originally scheduled to be Rick Vaughn Glasses Night in Cleveland.[4]
Why do we need a section called life imitates art? It makes no sense and does not seem encyclopedic. Statements like-""Wild Thing" was played in the stadium, much to the delight of the 19,031 fans in attendance, as a tribute to the situation." Come on, "Much to the delight of 19,031 fans" That reads like fluff to me. It seems people are trying to read too far into this film. Just because the film is about the Cleveland Indians does not mean that everything that happened after the film has to do with the movie, or is a tribute to the movie.--99.177.248.92 (talk) 22:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
This also is in the Life imitates art section-"During the beginning of the 2006 season, Boston Red Sox pitcher Jonathan Papelbon donned a haircut similar to that of Rick Vaughn's from the movie. Although Papelbon sported a mostly shaved head with a mohawk, he had a "zig zag" pattern in the back, beginning behind the ears and leading down to this neck. He reportedly won a friendly bet with teammate Kevin Youkilis, and in doing so, was forced to cut his hair.[6] Even though he no longer resembled Rick Vaughn, Papelbon continued to enter home games from the bullpen to "Wild Thing" blaring from the Fenway Park sound system, until "I'm Shipping Up to Boston" became his entrance song. In 2008, Papelbon regained the theme music, using "Wild Thing" as his entrance song while running to the mound and using "I'm Shipping Up to Boston" by the Dropkick Murphys once he got there and started throwing his warm up pitches." I went to the link provided for this. The link article in no way mentions the movie Major League. The fact that this man got a Mohawk has nothing to do with a character in a movie having a Mohawk. The link article does not say anything about this guy getting a Mohawk because the character in the movie did. The paragraph even says a haircut "Similar". This is what I mean about people reading too much into this movie and trying connect everything that happens after the movie to the movie. If anything, this paragraph about Jonathan Papelbon and his Mohawk belongs on his page on Wikipedia,as it has nothing to do with the film Major League and I am removing it.--99.177.248.92 (talk) 22:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
ads on scoreboard
[edit]During the filming of the movie, channels "4" (WTMJ) and "18" (Super 18-WVTV) are seen on the scoreboard. They are unique to Milwaukee and I'm surprised that the producers didn't change them like they did the "Cleveland Municipal Stadium" (from 'Milwaukee County Stadium')before filming? Too much money to change it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Potter54904 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- They probably didn't care enough to change it. Only people in Milwaukee and Cleveland would know the difference and these are hardly major markets. Its a miniscule issue that doesn't affect the movie's content - essentially an Easter Egg... Ckruschke (talk) 18:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke
Development Section of Article
[edit]The wording here seems to suggest that Fourth Base in West Milwaukee has been demolished, but this isn't true. The bar was just on the local news a few weeks ago; they recreated the interior as it was in the film, and recreated the 'celebration' scene for the film's anniversary. Not sure how to rework this to reflect that yes, County Stadium is long gone, but Fourth Base is still standing, and still going strong. TheBigFish (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Having not seen any discussion about this, I have updated the article to reflect that Fourth Base is still open and operating, but County Stadium has in fact been demolished. Still working on finding out what I can about Gritz's Pzazz; I may have found a lead on it's location, but nothing definite yet.TheBigFish (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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