Talk:Majdan Nowy massacre

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 09:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to the second Majdan Nowy massacre?

The events of 1942, when 7 people died, may be notable and need a disambig. The victims of the first massacre have individual articles on pl wiki, but probably could use merging there into an article about the event. Jan Gniduła, Katarzyna Kowal, Józef Kowal, Marianna Łubiarz, Anastazja Łubiarz, Kazimierz Szabat, Katarzyna Margol. @Dreamcatcher25 _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Fine by me. However, I suggest being diligent while describing the first massacre. I know that Pilecki Institute claims that these people were executed for helping Jews, however, their names are not listed in reliable sources about Nazi repressions against Poles aiding Jews (such as this one).Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 05:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dreamcatcher25 I haven't looked into the details of this incident yet. For now I just wanted to start a discussion about the possible need for renaming and/or creation of a disambig. I'll note that our article here states: "Seven individuals were executed on suspicion of aiding Jews," citing Called by Name project and Mikoda (ISBN 83-903356-0-3)? The sentence and source(s) seem to have been added by you. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: True, probably I should have been add "according to some Polish sources". Going back to the the renaming... "First" and "Second" massacre is probably the best option that English language gives us.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 05:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dreamcatcher25 Alt naming system would be with date (Majdan Nowy massacre (1942), Majdan Nowy massacre (1943)). Any preferences? The latter (with dates) may be better if sources don't use first/second. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: You right, it's even better solution.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 06:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dreamcatcher25 Ok. For now we can table this since the other article does not exist and the event is mentioned here. In the meantime, let's see if we can merge/rename some redundant articles on pl wiki (in the other discussion ongoing there), including merging those seven (!) nearly identical biographies there into an article about the event (the 1942 'first' massacre). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]