Talk:Mairead inghean Eachainn

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Gaelic for Daughter of is NIGHEAN not inghean.... typo???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamcrouse1 (talk • contribs) 01:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Nighean is a dialectical "corruption",[1] not in use historically. "Inghean" is what they used then, and what historians seem to use now [2]. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mariota Mackay

So according to historian Angus Mackay, the wife of the Wolf of Badenoch was Mariota Mackay, daughter of Iye Mackay, 4th of Strathnaver, and that she was the mother of the Wolf's children: See source: [3]. Can anyone clarify this ? QuintusPetillius (talk) 08:50, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that Angus Mackay wasn't certain. He wrote that he was "strongly inclined to believe" that the filia Athyn given by the Moray Register refers to a daughter of Iye Mackay. GWS Barrow, in Scotland and Its Neighbours in the Middle Ages (p115), stated that Athyn is a mistake for Achyn. Mairead's name elsewhere appears as Mariette Enyenachyn, with the latter word meaning inghean Eachainn (daughter of Eachann). So it seems that Angus Mackay guessed wrong. See here for another old secondary source, The Battle of Harlaw by William Mackay (pp19-20), which also points out that Athyn is incorrect.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 00:35, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well maybe we could add to the article that there is a source (Angus Mackay) who says that she was daughter of the Mackay chief and also that William Mackay states that the Moray register correctly transcribed would be daughter of Hector. Nothing here seems to be certain so we could update the article to give the various versions by different sources. QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've added Angus Mackay's theory in a note. It doesn't appear to have been followed in modern scholarship. The reason for this could be that the evidence for it was quashed by William Mackay almost a century ago (Barrow gives the year 1911, but the book he seems to be referring to was published in 1922). In The Wolf of Badenoch, Alexander Grant stated in a note that "[t]here is no evidence for the identification in Scots Peerage vii, 159, of Eachann with Iye Mackey of Strathnaver" (Scots Peerage cites Angus Mackay for the claim). Steve Boardman stated in Lordship in the North-East that the identity of Mairead's family is unknown, whilst Barrow identifies her merely as a Gaelic-speaking Highlander.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]