Talk:Mahmoudiya Mosque

Query about the DYK "fact"

"Building materials were acquired from Roman columns from Caesarea and Ashkelon.."' This seems to me like a garbled version of something that the original authors of the cited reference wrote. What did they actually write about this? They could have written "Building materials, including Roman columns, were acquired from Caesarea and Ashkelon". or "Roman columns and other building materials were acquired from Caesarea and Ashkelon." The main point here is that the materials "were acquired from" the places, not from the columns. Amandajm (talk) 13:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I added the url for the reference that backs the fact in question (p.202). Anyhow, the exact words from the books are "To the southwest is the Mahmoudiya Mosque, built in 1812 using columns taken from the Roman cities of Caesarea and Ashkelon." --Al Ameer son (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The the way in which the "fact" is worded is inaccurate. It is a misunderstanding, and a misinterpretation. The URL and reference do not back up the fact, because the fact has been wrongly quoted.

• The re-use of Roman columns as intact columns is what is implied here.
• to say that "Building materials were acquired from Roman columns" is very misleading.

What the sentence in the original source means is that columns were taken from the cities, and used. It doesn't mean that the columns were used as a general source of "building material" ie that they were chopped up and used for walls.

• Your introduction of the words "building material" (not used in the source at all) has added a great deal of confusion.
• Throughout the Middle East, North Africa, Itlay, Spain and France there are examples of building which re-use Roman columns. Columns were a precious architectural form, beautiful, harder to make well than stone blocks, and requiring the best quality stone. They were always re-used as columns, not as ordinary "building material". The "building material" of the Mosque did not "come from" columns.

Amandajm (talk) 07:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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