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On 10 December 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Magnus V of Norway to Magnus Erlingsson. The result of the discussion was moved.

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First Norwegian Crowning

...[Magnus] was the first Norwegian king to be crowned

In what sense? Was he the first to wear a crown, or the first to have a crowning ceremony? Was there no "becoming king" ceremony before? Top.Squark (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Previously kings had been "elected" by acclamation at the things Fornadan (t) 10:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, no thing was held for the coronation of Magnus? Do I understand correctly that the main novelty of "crowning" is the involvement of a high ranking Christian priest (probably a bishop or an archbishop)? Top.Squark (talk) 13:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article about Magnus VII, the later was

...acclaimed as hereditary king of Norway at the thing of Haugathing...

so that tradition was not over.Top.Squark (talk) 13:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The coronation (crowning) was a religious ceremony. It would be precided over by the archbishop, or in some cases, a papal legate (cardinal). It was not necessary to be crowned to be a king, but it signified that you had the church on your side. It didn't really have that much to do with becoming king, at this point. You became king by being acclaimed ("hylla" in Norwegian) at the Thing. This continued to be the case after the coronation ceremony was introduced, several kings after Magnus V were in fact never crowned, and Haakon Haakonsson was only crowned after 30 years on the throne, in 1247. So the coronation was a secondary event. Not until the 15th century had the system developed to the point where the king was not considered to really have taken the throne until after his coronation.--Barend (talk) 13:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 10 December 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magnus V of Norway → Magnus Erlingsson – Google Ngram shows Magnus Erlingsson is the WP:COMMONNAME. Векочел (talk) 02:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The Ngram evidence itself is weak, but the quality of the references for "Magnus Erlingsson" seems to be higher. In Category:12th-century Norwegian monarchs there are both regnal numbers and patronyms, so wp:consistent does not seem to favor either option. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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