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Maedi proper location from by Hoddinot,Fol & Cah.Megistias (talk) 13:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Maedi are located in modern Greece.Megistias (talk) 13:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Geography of Strabo published in Vol. III of the Loeb Classical Library edition, 1924. "...Not only the Axius flows out of the country of the Paeonians, but also the Strymon, for it flows out of the country of the Agrianes through that of the Medi and then Sinti and empties into the parts that are between the Bisaltae and the Odomantes..." [1] Jingby (talk) 14:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That isnt a secondary source.No original research.Mine is a secondary source and you just provide a translation of Strabo which is not a secondary source.Megistias (talk) 14:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Locations of the tribe in the article express Bulgarian nationalism.Maedi according the the finest and latest Thracian specialists were located in modern Greece.Megistias (talk) 14:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Read Greek site about the Maedi ... Alexander waged a brief campaign against the rebellious Maedi, a tribe that must have lived somewhere in the southwest of modern Bulgaria... [2] Jingby (talk) 18:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strabo Book 7 - To the Dardaniatae (Dardani) belong also the Galabrii, among whom is an ancient city, and the Thunatae, whose country joins that of the Medi, a Thracian tribe on the east. [3] Also according to Strabo the Maedi lived east from the Dardani! Jingby (talk) 18:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thracian tribes in Thrace before the Roman invasion.

Another Greek map of the Thracian tribes showing the same location! [4] Jingby (talk)

Another map of the Thracian tribes showing the same location! [5]

Another Greek site stating that ...But as the Macedonian army advanced deep into Thrace, the Thracian tribe of Maedi bordering north-eastern Macedonia rebelled... [6] Jingby (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another Bulgarian site stating that ... In the Southwest Bulgaria is found a little part of the province Macedonia, which was one of the earliest Roman possessions in the Balkans – from 146 BC. The lands of the thracian tribe Maedi, from which originated Spartacus, were annexed to it. The Maedi lived in the area along the riversides of Struma and Mesta. During the Roman times in this region have prospered the city Nicopolis ad Nestum (Gotse Delchev (town), Bulgaria) and the ancient city, which name is still unknown and locates under the modern Sandanski, Bulgaria. Jingby (talk) 19:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another internatianal site with map stating the same! See the secondari sources - Mellish Liz , Nick Green; Romania and Balkan History pages - Thracians Κουρτίδης Κωνσταντίνος Γ.; Ιστορία της Θράκης Γενική Γραμματεία Περιφέρειας Ανατ. Μακεδονίας και Θράκης - Θράκη! Maidoi / Medoi / Maedoi Μαίδοι Neighbours of the Odomantes to the north in the mountainous region in Pirin Bulgaria along the Struma (Στρυμών, Στρυμόνας) valley river. Their towns are now called Sandanski and Petrich. [7] ... Jingby (talk) 19:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to Thucidides - As he (Sitalces) left the Odrysian territory in going through the mountain (in south) he had on the right hand the Paeonians and on the left hand the Sinti and Maedi! (See the maps!) [8] Jingby (talk) 19:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hoddinot,Fol & Cah are the elite in the issue.Koyrtides is from 1932 and you cant use original research.Megistias (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fol for example sourced for my mapMegistias (talk) 22:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another map with description of Thracian towns claming the same location - [9] Jingby (talk) 08:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another map with description of Thracian towns claming the same location - [10] Jingby (talk) 08:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The monument of Spartacus in Sandanski - Bulgaria - Maedi location![11] Jingby (talk) 09:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to Revue Journal Arheologiâ (Arheologiâ) ISSN 2002, vol. 43, no4, pp. 25-32 Bulgarian Academy of Science - Civitas heracleotarum. A new epigraphic inscription indicating the name of the ancient city near the Village of Rupite, Petrich Region .... Geographically it was situated on the territory of the Thracian Sintoi that also bordered with the Thracian Maidoi (Maedi)... [12] Jingby (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to Professor Alexander Fol In : Thracia IV, Sofia 1977, p. 171, ...les tribus au nord des Crestoniens sont les Maidoi et les Dentheletai..., Alexandre Fol,L’orphisme thrace (en bulgare), Sofia 1986, p. 152! Translation is my - The tribes in north from the Krestonians are Maedi and Dentelai.(Your map is not related with this locations! See all other maps are showing this!)[13] Jingby (talk) 09:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to - The Macedonian Empire: The Era of Warfare Under Philip II and ... James R. Ashley - 2004, pg. 143 - The Maidoi lived in the upper Strymon Valley... [14] Jingby (talk) 09:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to THE GREEK PAGE OF THRACE ISBN 960-85609-0-X The the Maidi were in (mid-Strymon valley)[15]

According to THE GREEK PAGE OF THRACE'S ISBN 960-85609-0-X map the Maedi were located in Bulgaria! [16] Jingby (talk) 09:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the historycal site of Bulgarian Government "...в района на Благоевград - на медите..." Translation is mine - "In the region of Blagoevgrad lived the Maedi".[17] Jingby (talk) 10:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to The Cambridge Ancient History by John Bagnell Bury, Stanley Arthur Cook, Frank E. Adcock, Martin Percival Charlesworth, Iorwerth Eiddon Stephen Edwards, Michael Whitby, Cyril John Gadd, Nicholas Geoffrey Lemprière Hammond, John Boardman, David Malcolm Lewis, Frank William Walbank, John Anthony Crook, Andrew William Lintott, Elizabeth Rawson, Averil Cameron, Peter Garnsey, Bryan Ward-Perkins - 1925 - History, Ancient p. 449 [18] The Maedi lived in the middle Strimon Valley! Jingby (talk) 10:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dont remove my map again please as it is sourced.You can add your own map as well though the one you provide is aesthetically and informatively lacking.In the future i will be improving mine further and may include tribal movements and internal migrations within Thrace.Megistias (talk) 11:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I even show it scanned dont call me a lier.Maedi proper location from by Hoddinot,Fol & Cah.Megistias (talk) 11:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the map with both views and will upload soon.Megistias (talk) 12:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Map updated

Thracian tribes & Spartacus tribe,the Maedi

Megistias (talk) 13:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And what is updated? Jingby (talk) 13:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CLick on the map and refresh if need be.......Megistias (talk) 13:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you will update it, push the tribe-location in the middle in the region of the border between Bulgaria and Greece! Jingby (talk)

Its updated what is your problem? Megistias (talk) 13:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are any historical or archeological evidences about some migration of the Medi in this way! There is any graphical or textual prove about that, thise tribe lived on the Mediterranian coast as on this map. I think this is problem!Jingby (talk) 14:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maedi proper location from by Hoddinot,Fol & Cah.USE YOUR EYES.Megistias (talk) 14:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have any of you two ever heard about the Medes, Media and Median invasion into the the Balkans around 2.000 BC? Zenanarh (talk) 14:30, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maedi were Greek?

DIEGO73, please, do not make attempts to change the origin of this tribe without providing reliable sources to support it. Please, offer here academic sources, backing your personal opinion and gain consensus before editing. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 15:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]