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Madoueskaks Tribe?

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"The area was named after the First Nations Madoueskaks tribe, that inhabited the whole of the Saint John River valley from Grand Falls, New Brunswick to Sept-Îles, Quebec."

I believe that this is incorrect. There is also no reference for it. The indigenous people of the Madawaska region were, and are, Maliseet (Wolastokiyik). Their territory was along the St. John River Valley (which went much farther south than Grand Falls), yes, but not up to Sept-Isles; that area was Innu (Montagnais) land. The word "Madawaska" has two possible origins. The traditional and colonial accepted version is that it is a convergence of the two words "Mathoues" (Maliseet word for 'porcupine') and "ka", "kak", or "cook" (Maliseet variants for 'place'). However, there is a debate among Maliseet speakers that this is the true translation. Another similar word, "Mataweskiye" refers to a place where two waters (rivers) meet that flow over grass . Considering that two large rivers (the Madawaska and St. John Rivers) meet at Edmundston (largest city in Madawaska county) and that the river with the same name is a wetland with considerable grass growing in the river, it is highly likely that this is the correct origin of the term. The latter origin also accounts for the vowel ending in Madawask-'a'. Most Maliseet place names that end in "place" are "cook" or "kak", they end with a hard 'c', 'k', or 'q'. Furthermore, Maliseet, and Wabanaki, nomenclature typically refers to a landscape or ecological feature of that site and may also refer to the specific activity that took place during a certain time of year at that spot (i.e. Ekpahak - place where the tide ends; Magaquavic - place or river of big eels). Francis Ganong notes in his "A Monograph of the Place-nomenclature of the Province of New Brunswick (1896), that the local pronounciation during that time was "Med-a-wes'-co" which he states, "is nearer the Indian than is our more usual pronunciation" (p. 247).

Francis William Ganong, Andrea Bear Nicholas, and Mark Landry all have written about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.139.0.55 (talk) 15:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC) 142.139.0.55 (talk) 16:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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