Talk:Mad at the World

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this whole article is a straight copy of the text from the band's website.

And it reads TERRIBLY. When I get a chance, I'll try and re-edit and fix this. The band deserves a better article than this one. GBrady (talk) 20:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC) I agree, this article is pretty bad. More history is needed, less paragraph-style entries on individual albums and individual members! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.31.21.15 (talk) 16:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am attempting to fix this after doing some research. It's a little rough right now but please bear with it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4bigGuy9 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~I added the infobox today and fleshed out a little on the first two albums. It's coming along!~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4bigGuy9 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the Randy Rose discography should be moved to a seperate entry for Randy, and if there are no objections I intend to do that in the near future.4bigGuy9 (talk) 18:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Cleanup

I've basically rewritten this article, adding a history and references. I think it's time to remove the Cleanup banner.4bigGuy9 (talk) 18:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Issues

Considering that all the issues flagged are two years old or more, I believe it's time to remove them from the top of the page. As the writer of the majority of the article, I can vouch that I did no original research. Some links need to be fixed but all references come from articles previously published before this entry was written. I have never been in communication with anyone connected with the band before or since. If there are no objections I will remove the header in the near future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4bigGuy9 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@4bigGuy9: Time is not a determining factor in the removal of templates. They should only be removed when the issues that they are flagging have been resolved. Let's look closely at the three templates and the changes have happened since they were placed. Also @Kind Tennis Fan: as they placed one and @Sulfurboy: as they placed two.

{{original research}} was place in December 2017. I suppose {{BLP sources}} or a similar template could have been placed instead. Are all of the sentences sourced or are there some that may not be sourced. The history section is fairly well sourced but the band members section isn't. So I suspect we could move that down to that section, but certainly not remove it.

{{unreliable sources}} has also been there since December 2017. Seven are from madattheworld.net and are a WP:PRIMARY source. Not really unreliable, but not really great. Two more, Kickstarter and CDBaby, are primary. The brentgordonsmusic.com may be as well. I have not listed to it or checked to see what it's sourcing. One each from AllMusic and Billboard, so those are really good. Six are from Jesus Freak Hideout. They're a good source, but only reviews (and one should be fixed). Two from Phantom Tollbooth. Again, not bad. The two from downthelinezine.com, one each from thejollylamas.com, rockinthestandards.com, firestreamvault and dreambooks.com are far from reliable sources. An inline tag could be used on those. A primary sources inline tag could be used on the ones back to the band site. Of course, all of the sources should be reviewed and merged where possible.

Finally, {{cleanup rewrite}} has been there since October 2018 and there hasn't been a re-write since then, so I can't see that being removed, but then again, I'm not sure what needs to be rewritten either.

Based on my analysis, the templates should remain until the issues have been resolved. Other than their duration, why do you think they should be removed? Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]