Talk:MS 1467

A fact from MS 1467 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 February 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the mediaeval Gaelic manuscript MS 1467 contains the earliest known pedigree which gives Clan Campbell a "British" ancestry, from Uther Pendragon, and King Arthur?

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An Leabhar 1467

Fascinating. Don't think I ever heard of this before. Fergananim (talk) 07:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. And why isn't there a modern edition? Surely there must be an ambitious Scottish medieval historiographer somewhere, working away on it as we write? 45ossington (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See now this brilliant web-site 45ossington (talk) 08:32, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cormaic m. Airbheartaigh

From Cormaic m. Airbheartuigh descend the following families within the MS1467:

MacKenzie of Kintail MacLennan of Kintail area Gillander/Ross (of Clan Gille Ainnrias) MacGregor MacDuffie MacPhee MacMillan MacKinnon (abbots of Iona) MacQuarries O'Beollain/MacBollan (as Green Abbots of Applecross) MacNab (as Green Abbots)

Steer and Bannerman in the 1970s found a second inscription, hidden from public view) on the tomb marker of Gille-Brigde MacKinnon, which read "+ HIC ICAET. FINGONE. MAC CARMAIC. ET FIN/LAID MAC. FINGONE. ET EOGAN." This has been deemed to confirms part of the MS1467 pedigree for the MacKinnon: Niall m. Gille Brighde m. Eogan m. Gille Brighde m. Old Eoghan m. Finlay m. Finnghuine from whom are the MacKinnons m. Cormac m. Airbheartach m. Murchadh m. Feachar Og. i.e, this portion of the pedigree: Gille Brighde m. Old Eoghan m. Finlay m. Finnghuine from whom are the MacKinnons m. Cormac

Airbertach is said to have live about the time of Somerled (d.1164) based on his position in the MacKinnon pedigree, hence Cormac founder of all the above lines would like died at the end of 12th century.

The historian Donald Gregory identifies the first authentic record of clan McKInnon as being found in the 1354 indenture between John of Islay, Lord of the Isles and the Lord of Lorn. In the indenture, Lorn agreed to hand over the Isle of Mull and other lands, if the castle of Cairn na Burgh, located on Cairn na Burgh Mòr in the Treshnish Isles, was not delivered into the keeping of any of Clan Finnon.

Within MacFirbis transcription of the MacMillan pedigree it contains the following: "Cormaic m. Airbheartuigh reamhraite; as é an tAirbeartach sin do aitreabh da trebh dég i fFionnlochlannuibh (?) .i. Greagraidh (?) na nGaisgeadhach, dar comainm Muil<e>, agus Tír <no Tiri> <nó Tire> Aodha, agus Cruibhinis <no Craoibhinis>."

Translated as: "Cormac s. Airbheartach aforesaid; it was that Airbheartach who settled twelve households in Fionnlochlainn, i.e. Greagraidh na nGaisceadhach, which was also named Muile, and Tír (or Tíre) Aodha and Cruibhinis (or Craoibhinis). (Airbheartach's control over twelve households makes he a minor noble in Gaelic Society.)

It seems possiblegiven the geographical location of Airbheartach holding that he was an ancestor the MacKinnon. However could the sons of Cormac m. Airbheartaigh, originating in Mull at the end of the 12th century, be responsible for other clans that the MS1467 pedigrees are supposed to represent?