Talk:MLS Cup 1999

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Resources

• Season summaries: LA Galaxy, D.C. United (Oral history)
• Previews: LA Times (five players from 1996), NY Times, Washington Post
• Full broadcast
• Recaps: Boston Globe, LA Times (p.D1), LA Times on physicality (p. D10), Washington Post, NY Times
  • SI: Content hub, Recap, Fraser comments
• MLS Cup Moments: Kevin Hartman, Robin Fraser

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:MLS Cup 1999/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 16:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• Lead is a little weak on description of the game and what happened to the teams after the 1999 season.
  • Expanded.
• How was the stadium chosen?
  • It's explained at the end of the first paragraph, but the bid selection process is not usually disclosed.
• "narrowed to 68 by 106 yards" what was the normal soccer pitch size there?
  • Added from an existing source. Minimum is 70 yards, but most teams now have 75 yards. Yankee Stadium is the only current MLS venue to be at the bare minimum (due to its unique situation).
• "Conference Finals" what are those?
  • Dropped the term for now.
• Seems an odd place to put the Venue section on reflection. I would have thought after the route the final section would make more sense. Especially as you "
  • The venue is selected before the season begins, and this layout follows other American championship games with predetermined venues. I wouldn't mind moving it to after the summary table, but it would need to be overhauled.
• "play in 1996." could link inaugural season here.
  • Done.
• "having played in the inaugural final in" overlinked.
  • Removed.
• Link "overtime".
  • Done.
• Two consecutive sentences starting " The 1999 final was..." is repeitive.
  • Removed the first.
• "Los Angeles's Kevin Hartman was..." caption needs a period.
  • Added.
• Sanchez is missing a diacritic.
  • Fixed.
• "the national under-20 team for two" these days, worth clarifying that's the men's team, right?
  • Fixed.
• "Tampa Bay Mutiny led " ovelrinked.
  • Fixed.
• " to allow less than one goal per match" an average of ...
  • Fixed.
• "Sigi Schmid was named" no need to repeat first name.
  • Fixed.
• Link "brace".
  • Done.
• Link penalty.
  • Done.
• "RFK Stadium" where's that?
  • Dropped.
• "11 cards issued" link to yellow card (Penalty card#Yellow card).
  • Done.
• "six staring players " having a long hard look?
  • Fixed.
• "a normal starting" unclear really what "normal" means, is it "full-strength"?
  • The source explains that it wasn't full-strength, but would have fewer reserves than they did for the rest of the season.
• "MLS players John Harkes and" overlinked.
  • Fixed.
• "performed at the halftime show and also sang the national anthem before the match" I would put this the other way round, anthem first, halftime show second.
  • Fixed.
• In the match summary, the following are overlinked: Lassiter, Hartman, Maessner, Olsen, Mathis and Presthus.
  • Removed.
• Link box.
  • Done.
• Where are shirt numbers and player nationalities referenced?
  • Added a source.
• Olsen overlinked at MVP.
  • Fixed.
• Two of the four match rules are unreferenced.
  • Usually, this section isn't cited, but the sudden change before the match warranted it; I can't find a copy of the league's rules for the 1999 specifically to cite the three substitutions (which was changed the following year to add a fourth overtime-only substitute).
• I don't think common terms like "cigar" and "champagne" need linking.
  • Removed.
• Post-match, no need to repeat first names if there's no ambiguity in who you're talking about.
  • Removed, except where the name is preceded with a title/label for clarity.
• Scorelines in ref titles should use en-dash not hyphen to separate.
  • Fixed.

That's my first run through, so I'll put it on hold for now. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:08, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: All done addressing your notes, though I had trouble with some. Thanks for the review. SounderBruce 23:58, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm content with the changes. I think it was already GA-quality with a few tweaks and it's now quite a way beyond that level, so I'm happy to promote. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 14:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that MLS Cup 1999 was played with new rule changes that were approved days before the game? Source: New York Times, CNN/SI
  • ALT1:... that MLS Cup 1999 was played on a narrower pitch at Foxboro Stadium due to it hosting a National Football League game earlier in the week? Source: Chicago Tribune
  • ALT2:... that MLS Cup 1999 featured the same teams as the inaugural cup at the same venue? Source: New York Times

• Reviewed: Chinatown MRT station

Improved to Good Article status by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 06:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC).

• Hi SounderBruce, I'll get onto this. The GA pass date is valid. Length I don't even have to calculate, that's no problem. All hooks are neutral and short enough. The first hook piques my interest, and both sources validate it. The source validates the second hook, though the fact that a soccer pitch can be between 50 and 100 yards wide made it kind of a disappointment when I read it was cut from 72 to 68. The third hook is confirmed by the source (though I now have to subscribe to read it again...) but is the least interesting of the three. The first hook is my preferred. All hooks are cited in the right place. Copyvio detects lead paragraphs identical here but this looks like a cheap website copying Wikipedia. As for neutrality of the whole page, I am not knowledgeable enough on the subject but nothing stands out, and I trust the GA review from The Rambling Man, a frequent collaborator on articles in this subject. So overall, Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:31, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• Just FYI, the minimum pitch width in MLS is 70 feet, but an exception was made for this match due to the circumstances. SounderBruce 06:25, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Attendance record

This article mentions twice that the attendance of 44,910 was an MLS Cup record (with sources provided). However, this is not true, as both previous finals had attendance figures of 50k+. Does it mean a record for the 1999 edition of MLS Cup? Or for an MLS Cup game in MA? Please advise. Wurzel91 (talk) 09:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Removed for now, it seems the LA Times was mistaken. SounderBruce 10:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! It's also interesting to note that an article on the 1998 final states that "the attendance of 51,350 surpassed the 1997 final", again, with two sources provided (including, you guessed it, Frank Stallone the LA Times), and again, wrong, as the 1997 final was a sellout with 57,431 reported spectators. Weird. Wurzel91 (talk) 11:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)