Talk:Lyul'ka

Apologies for the very sparse article. I've gone about this the wrong way I know. But I was very annoyed that there was no article on Lyul'ka just a re-direct to a corporate stub with no useful info in it./ AllI have to do now is write the article.Petebutt (talk) 00:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge

I've just noticed that this page is almost identical to the Lyulka article. I think that we should merge the two and turn Lyulka into a redirect. This one has better links so I'd suggest that somebody see what's salvageable on the Lyulka article and transfer it here. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Name (and merging)

Do we have a Russian reader who can tell us if the correct transliteration is Lyulka or Lyul'ka? Is it a hard or soft sign (ъ or ь) after the second л in Люльҝа?TSRL (talk) 22:00, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I've been in touch with an English speaking Russian physicist colleague, who says the apostrophe looks strange and doesn't usually appear. He also says he would write the name as Lulka, without the y since Lyu is said bu.. Both l's are soft.TSRL (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Further discussions yield: the lyu is sounded closer to lu, as in lumen, with no y in it; but agreement that the standard though unhelpful way of Romanising it is Lyulka, no apostrophe and unsounded y. So a merge should in my view be into Lyulka not Lyul'ka. The articles surely need merging.TSRL (talk) 09:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I've just been discussing this with one of our Profs of Russian, who points out there are several systems both of transcription and of transliteration. It turns out my Uni's preferred transliteration would give Lul'ka. But there are clear Wki guidelines at Wikipedia: Romanisation of Russian, and these give Lyulka as the soft sign is dropped in most cases, including here. It's a transcription scheme rather than a transliteration.TSRL (talk) 16:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)