Talk:Lupus erythematosus

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Article categorization

This article was categorized based on scheme outlined at WP:DERM. kilbad (talk) 02:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Que?

Can we get some real content here to help differentiate between these? Good writing is readable by any competent and reasonably well-educated reader, not just a med student. Even a disambig page gets more prose than this. MrZaius^talk 15:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it needs to be written for the non professional. when I typed in Symptoms of lupis, I was brought to http :/ /arthritis.about. com/od/lupus/a/guidetolupus. htm (take out the spaces I added) sorry Wiki, but you do this to often, quoting from the med books and chem books, instead of having someone do the translation from "I have a doctorate in: xxxxx" to the "what is xxxxx, i'm in grade school and my best friend just told me this is why she is sick" version. this is what I hate about Wiki, you try to show how educated YOU are, rather than helping to EDUCATE others!

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.213.124.203 (talk) 17:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this really is unusable for the lay person, which is who an encyclopedia is for. I hear people say they have Lupus all the time, it would be good to have a general article on Lupus which expands the different, specific forms in separately linked pages.

This would be like if I viewed the page on 'Tiger' and rather than get the egeneral article we now have, instead have a disambiguation page like this listing 'Bengal Tiger', 'African Tiger', 'Malayan Tiger', etc all in separate articles. It would be very frustrating for someone looking for general information on tigers.

This can be done better, and should be written for those who are not interns of internal medicine or dermatology. 98.172.21.130 (talk) 22:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is possibly the least useful page on the entire Internet, much less Wikipedia.aeonite (talk) 00:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I want to find out information about a common illness and this is what I find? This page is almost entirely useless. This is the first page I have come upon in Wikipedia where I got absolutely nothing out of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cscz28 (talk • contribs) 11:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, wtf. 128.239.181.99 (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article content

This article and almost all of the articles that this article links to in the "types" section need much more content, as discussed above. Many are only a sentence or two long and/or simply a collection of links. I combined localized, generalized and childhood discoid lupus erythematosus into a single article because the parent article was simply a page that linked to the other three. Also, the three articles were only a couple of sentences long themselves. If someone wants to revert the articles to the way they were, I will not object. However, I suggest that the articles remain combined until there is enough information in the main article so as to justify separating the conditions into their own articles. The three conditions now redirect to the main article. -- Kjkolb (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The last sentence seems specious and somewhat (pardon the pun) inflammatory: "Lupus erythematosus, much like fibromyalgia is a fake disease, and most people who claim to be affected have severe psychological issues." Rewording and a reference are needed here.

Let's be honest here. This is an absurdity, written by an egghead who is clearly more motivated by his narcissistic proclivities than telling us about Lupus in plain language. I have a friend who went to work in China and contacted the disease there. I simply wanted an overview of what it is all about. I am now more un-educated about the disease than I was before I read the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.68.72.15 (talk) 12:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not in ref

tuberculous skin disease is not in the ref as far as I can see. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:06, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is there any cure for this disease? ive been suffering for this for years. hope this section gets broader —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.237.217 (talk) 12:26, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened

As Lupus erythematosus is a collection of disease IMO this page should be kept short and users directed to a subpage which will than discuss the specific condition in detail. Pubmed does not really comment on this condition alone.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The ICD 10 seem to indicate that this heading only refers to the skin related lupuses? And excludes SLE. I guess we should have this page reflect that.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:10, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IT'S NOT LUPUS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.166.28.146 (talk) 02:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How Common?

How common is Lupus? I see some stats that say 9 of 10 sufferers are female, but overall, what percentage of the population has it / or could be diagnosed with it? I've heard 1 in 5 women in (a?/the?) population. However, I'm wary of going to an advocacy group (Lupus Foundation), because of course they're going to fluff their numbers...
~ender 2012-10-13 8:51:AM MST It's never lupus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.4.138 (talk) 12:34, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've included a prevalence section in an attempt to address exactly that question. Unfortunately there is limited or restricted data in regards to worldwide prevalence.

If you are asking in regards to the US and about lupus, one estimate places the commonality at 53 per 100,000, which is 0.053% of the population.

I've found this wiki article which has more detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_lupus_erythematosus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.12.140 (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Prevalence Data!

Hi,

I just included a prevalence section, including some statistics for the US and UK about lupus. However, publicly available data is difficult to find, especially in regards to worldwide prevalence of SLE and other forms Lupus Erythematosus.

There is a publication numerously sited with detailed statistics:

"Epidemiology of systemic lupus erythematosus: a comparison of worldwide disease burden" by N Danchenko, J A Satia and M S Anthony.

It seems to be the best bet for LSE data, but I can't find a version freely available (the cost for the text is over $100). The studies that site this text also don't include much of the statistics for prevalence either. If anybody can find this text, or indeed a similar text with all forms of Lupus prevalence / epidemiology data related to either the worldwide population or national populations of countries OTHER than the USA, then we could broaden this section!

I feel like this article is tragically lacking in detail for anybody wanting to find out about Lupus in general, not just SLE, so I'm trying to help out :) 77.99.12.140 (talk) 04:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article sucks. Lacking any decent content, no pictures... common people, this is not a wiki article

I'm going to agree. Beyond saying that it is an autoimmune disease, how serious/ debilitating is it? Prognosis? Is it life threatening? (I gather not, but I couldn't tell from this page.) What is this '"butterfly" rash'? (where does it show up, how big is it, what color...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.8.89.6 (talk) 21:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

This describes a mild form of the basic SLE condition The SLE page is much richer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.0.76 (talk) 16:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose distinct diseases independently notable; they are already sufficiently cross-linked. Klbrain (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doc James: What do you think about this issue? --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 10:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This article is about a group of diseases. Ideally it should be an overview of this group. SLE is a single disease. Always harder to write about groups of diseases but that does not mean we should have seperate articles for them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:17, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Doc James: Always harder to write about groups of diseases but that does not mean we should have separate articles for them. Did you mean you want to merge SLE into Lupus erythematosus since you said that that does not mean we should have separate articles for them.? --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 14:39, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - No as that would give undue weight to one type of lupus erythematosus in the page about all types. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:43, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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