Talk:Luke Schenn

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Created player page for Luke Schenn - I think he fits notability standards, fairly significant international experience (similar to Drew Doughty), projected as a high first rounder for 2008 as well. Leafschik1967 (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Leadership

I was wondering if we should add a peice in Schenn's leadership. He has already had a couple fights while standing up for teammates. The most notable being against Chris Neil. I also have a link form the National Post on how Ron Wilson thinks Schenn has been valuable. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/postedsports/archive/2009/02/01/leafs-notebook-schenn-shows-leadership.aspx

Just a thought. Random24 (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

He fights (poorly) a few times and this is indicative of his leadership?--Львівське (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Luke Schenn/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: EdgeNavidad (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Starting review now.

Quick-fail assessment

1. The article completely lacks reliable sources – see Wikipedia:Verifiability. -
2. The topic is treated in an obviously non-neutral way – see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. -
3. There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including {{cleanup}}, {{wikify}}, {{NPOV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{fact}}, {{clarifyme}}, or similar tags. -
4. The article is or has been the subject of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars. -
5. The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint. -

The article passes the quick-fail assessment, will now look in more detail.--EdgeNavidad (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MOS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Prose quality

Minor

"Schenn played his minor hockey ..." I think the word "his" is not needed here.

"and his father Jeff was the coach." Maybe "coached by his father" is better?

Fixed both of these.

Professional

"On October 7, 2008, Schenn signed an entry level contract with the team." It may confuse readers which team this is about, the Maple Leafs or his junior team. Consider to replace it by "On October 7, 2008, Schenn signed an entry level contract with the Maple Leafs.", or solve it in another way.

Fixed.

References to sources

Source 1 (faceoff.com)

This source should back up the statement that Schenn "was widely expected to be returned to his junior club". The source only says that "Early reports suggested Schenn would be returned to the Kelowna Rockets for one more season", which is not so strong.

Fixed to agree more closely with the source.

Source 5 (hockeycanada.ca)

This source should back the statement that "Schenn was named to the WHL's Second All-Star Team after the 2006–07 season." I can not find it on that page (but maybe I just missed it).

An error in the year, fixed and re-referenced.

Source 14 (thestar.com)

The statement in the wikipedia article is that the coach "expected" Schenn to be one of the team's top four defensemen, while the source says that the coach was "declaring" Schenn as one.

Fixed.

Source 16 (theglobeandmail.com)

It is only available for subscribed members. This is allowed per WP:SOURCEACCESS, but maybe it can easily be replaced by a source that is available for everybody.

I left the original reference, and found a TSN.ca one that said something very similar.

Career statistics

There are no direct references given for the career statistics, but they can be found in the external links. I don't know if there is some thought about it in WP:HOCKEY, but it might be useful to give these external links as references here.

Added references.

The statistics were right as far as I could check, but I could not find the International statistics for Super Series and WJHC. I admit, I don't know much about ice hockey, so I may have overlooked them somewhere with a different name. Can you show me where those statistics are?

They are in reference 5, the World Championships Media Guide.

Awards

There are no sources given for these awards here. Elsewhere in the article they were given. The information would be easier to verify (not just for me, but more important for readers) if these sources are also given here.

Fixed that with references added to the tables.

Images

The images are ok, with correct copyright tags and captions. You may improve the article by adding alt texts.

Overall

It is a nice article with high quality, so I've tried to be strict in the review. The details that I found can probably be fixed soon, and it may be a good idea to try to get this article to featured status. --EdgeNavidad (talk) 15:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Almost all problems solved. I will give you some time so find an alternative source for theglobeandmail. The current subscribed source is good enough, but I guess there should be an open access source for that claim, like a match report or whatever, which would improve the article a little bit more. Once you've found it, I will promote the article. --EdgeNavidad (talk) 06:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)