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Where does the quote ("to remind me never to do a thing like that again.") come from? Mr King was not involved in the fight. The story of the song itself appears in Mr King's song "Lucille", but never have I seen any mention of this particular quote. Just what would Mr King be reminding himself of to never do again? I have removed this sentence in the article as the source is unclear.

He is reminding himself never again to do anything as stupid as running into a burning building to get his guitar back.Respectfully, SamBlob 21:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Always black Gibsons resembling the ES-335"? From 1949 on? Not possible.

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The Gibson ES-335 was introduced in 1957. The guitar he retreived from the fire in 1949 could not have been an ES-335 or anything that looked like it, nor could any Lucille before 1957. Respectfully, SamBlob 22:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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eek: i was just looking at the bio page of bbking.com and the story of where the name Lucille came from was apparently lifted word-for-word from that site (unless of course that site lifted the wording from wikipedia). the same wording is in the B. B. King article as well. is there some procedure for checking whether permission's been granted or do we simply remove the verbatim bit until someone has time to rewrite it? Sssoul (talk) 11:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

update: i've removed this material and replaced it with a link to the page of King's website that the wording was lifted from. that's not a very elegant solution, but it's better than violating copyrights. maybe someday someone will have the time to reword the story so that it can be used here. Sssoul (talk) 06:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The account is not cut and pasted from where you claim it is. First of all, the official biography claims that this occurred in the mid '50s, while this claims it occurred in the winter of 1949. Secondly, the official biography claims that they hit over a kerosene stove, whereas this stated that what they hit over was a barrel of kerosene that had been set to burn. The part about the "beloved $30 guitar" may have been added from that site, but I don't know. The part you took out had a source cited, which shows most of the information, including the 1949 date and the burning barrel, and it seems to be mostly paraphrased from that source, with some parts probably added from where you claim it was copied from.
Since it is not a direct copy from either the stated source or the source you claim it to be copied from, I shall put it back. Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 15:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
apologies for my carelessness. the version that was in the B. B. King article - under "Main article: Lucille (guitar)" - was lifted verbatim from the BB King website, and i overhastily mistook the text here for the same thing. Sssoul (talk) 21:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The current Lucille is directly based on the ES-355

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There are some editors, usually unregistered, who keep changing the statement that the current Lucille is based on the Gibson Lucille is based on the ES-355. This is probably due to their ignorance of the ES-355 and their refusal to be enlightened thereof.

The ES-355, as stated in Gibson ES-335#ES-355, was a premium version of the ES-335 with binding on the neck, headstock, and the front and the back of the body. It was also available with stereo wiring and VariTone notch filter circuitry. The Lucille is based on this deLuxe model, complete with stereo and VariTone.

Since the ES-355 is itself based on the ES-335, the Lucille *is* indirectly based on the ES-335, but it is directly based on the ES-355.

Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Maybe the reason people keep editing this article is that the first line of it is incorrect. It says and I quote, "Lucille is the name B.B. King gave to his guitars. They were usually black Gibson guitars similar to the ES-335." As you have stated, Lucille was based on an ES-355, which is similar to an ES-335. But the fact is, it was not an ES-335. Also, the earliest ones were not black. There's a documentary on PBS that shows those guitars, I just watched it.

I'm sorry if I don't know how to use Wikipedia's editor. But I don't. My name is Ax, and I speak these words based on my own experiences.

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