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@DerbyCountyinNZ: The problem is that would make the entire List of the verified oldest people list WP:OR/WP:SYNTH as well. It even says at the top under 100 Oldest Women "The list including known and validated supercentenarians who died before 2015 was compiled by the Gerontology Research Group (GRG). Later cases are included in more recent GRG data, with administrative reports or press coverage as supplementary sources, as indicated in the table." Most of the top 10 names are sourced solely by GRG. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers, Tempelz, and Meredithslota: All of you have reverted edits saying Randon has been "wheelchair-bound/confined to a wheelchair", and I'd like to ask why. I am aware that some consider the phrase ableist, but I also know that there has been no Wikipedia discussion saying these terms are not allowed. 🇺🇦ChicdatBawk to me!11:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Chicdat, "used a wheelchair" was first introduced on June 2, and you first changed it to "wheelchair-bound" on June 13, citing MOS:EUPH. "wheelchair-bound" was removed again on July 4, and there's been a slow-motion (with flare-ups) edit war ever since with no talk page discussion. Let me know if that history is incorrect.Assuming I'm correct, "used a wheelchair" is preferable here for three reasons:
"wheelchair-bound" is not supported by the source, which just says "in a wheelchair"
since the RfC you alluded to, both styles have been acceptable (or at least, there's no consensus against their use), and in such situations, the original style should be retained per MOS:VAR
some editors and readers do consider "wheelchair-bound" to be ableist, so there should be some affirmative, compelling reason to use it here.
No substantive response for a few days now. I was responding mainly to "wheelchair-bound", but would say the same things about "confined to a wheelchair". Pending some new participation in the next couple days, I plan to revert per the above, mainly the WP:NOCON of it all. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
