Talk:Love Again (Dua Lipa song)

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

This is two months old, making a review well overdue!! --K. Peake 07:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Pipe Clarence Coffee Jr. to The Monsters & Strangerz under songwriters
• Pipe Stephen Kozmeniuk to Koz (musician)
• WP:OVERLINK of Koz (musician) under producer(s)
• "from her second studio album" → "from her second studio album,"
• The production part is not sourced anywhere in the body
  • Vulture source used in "Music and lyrics"
• The release part should be the fourth sentence of the first para instead
• ""Love Again" is a classically-sounding" → "It is a classic-sounding" per the body sourcing this, not classical the genre
• The sample sentence should come directly after the above one
• "and personal growth. They see Lipa" → "and personal growth, seeing Lipa"
• Remove release year of "My Woman" since that being solely in the body is sufficient
• "with its strings, horn and trumpet," → "using it for the melody," to avoid too much lead detail
• ""Love Again" was sent for → "it was sent for"
• Remove "from Future Nostalgia" because you have already said the single is from the album earlier on in this sentence
• "on 4 June 2021 globally." → "on 4 June globally." to avoid overusage of the year
• "used in its production" → "used in the production"
• "Commercially, the song reached" → "Commercially, "Love Again" reached" and the Global chart position should be the last of the three
• "where it reached the summit." → "reaching the summit in the last of the territories." and any countries this charted in need to be sourced in the body
• "is certified silver in the United Kingdom and platinum in" → "has been certified silver in the United Kingdom by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) and platinum in both" with the wikilink, also mention the other respective organizations
• Remove introduction to Lope Serrano, as that being in the body only is fine
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on London
• I don't think "saddle" is really an appropriate term here
• "on multiple occasions including at the" → "on multiple occasions in 2021, including at the" removing the year from any of the occasions listed because all of this sentence is 2021 performances

 Done

Writing and production

• Img looks good!
• Pipe Clarence Coffee Jr. to The Monsters & Strangerz
• Pipe Stephen Kozmeniuk to Koz (musician)
• "who had been dishonest" → "who was dishonest"
• "Lipa didn't recognize herself" → "Lipa failed to recognize herself"
• "but they hadn't written anything" → "but had not written anything"
• "to that studio" → "to the studio"
• Second studio album introduction is redundant since that has already been provided in the lead
• Wikilink riff
• Pipe drum break to Break (music), rather than the overly obvious wikilink on drum
• "positive energy into ones life" → "positive energy into one's life"
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on guitar per WP:OVERLINK
• Wikilink song structure
• "and the crediting of the song's writers that includes" → "and credit for its writers, including" on the img text, also pipe sample to Sampling (music)
• "build with a lot of drums before and string part" does not read right at all; maybe something like "built up with a lot of a drums, before working on the string part" or whatever this really means better worded
• Remove commas around Drew Jurecka
• "which she expressed her admiration for how" → "which she admired for how"
• Wikilink middle eight per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Add the release year of Star Wars in brackets, as it is the same for the movie or film no matter which is referenced
• "She described it as a visual line" → "She described the line as a visual one"
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on London
• "the ad libs last which she was nervous for thinking" → "the ad-libs last, nervously thinking" with the pipe
• "with great acoustics where" → "with strong acoustics where" to be less repetitive
• Sleep Sound should only be mentioned once in prose
• Pipe mixing to Audio mixing (recorded music)
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
• Remove wikilink on middle eight since this should have been done earlier on
• "but quickly went" → "but quickly went with the"
• Remove pipe on mix

 Done

Music and lyrics

• Audio sample looks good!
• ""Love Again" is a" → "Musically, "Love Again" is a"
• Remove wikilink on middle eight
• Remove wikilink on chord progression
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on violin per WP:OVERLINK
• "stirring, and buzzing" → "stirring and buzzing" and the sample sentence should be directly after this one
• "make up its chord progression and much of its" → "make up the chord progression and much of the"
• "strings, horn, and" → "strings, horn and"
• Pipe register to Vocal register
• "a new relationship, and explains" → "a new relationship and explains"
• "After a falling out with" → "Having fallen out with"
• "into their lives when things aren't" → "into their life when things are not" and this should be the last sentence instead

 Done

Release and promotion

• "is apart on" → "is apart of"
• Pipe percussion to Percussion instrument
• "instrumentals, and strutting beats" → "instrumentals and strutting beats"
• I'm not sure if squelchy is an appropriate term here; it is not a reception section, remember
  • Removed. LOVI33 03:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
• You should mention that Lipa talks about the making of the song in the episode
• "on 4 June 2021." → "on 4 June."
• "fifteen months following" → "after 15 months following" per MOS:NUM
• No name for the Italy radio service?
  • There was a consensus on this a little while ago, I can't find it right now but essentially the source for Italy radio dates doesn't have a specific format so "Radio airplay" was deemed a more accurate term. LOVI33 03:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
• Add the term "stations" after the names of the radio ones in the US
• "was officially sent to" → "was officially sent as a single to" to be specific
• "and the 15 October 2021-released" → "and the 15 October-released" to avoid overusage of the year

 Done

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception per the inclusion of best-of lists
• This should be ordered by thematic element, i.e. reviews focused on the sample first
• "sample, calling them "goosebump-inducing,"[56] while musicOMH's Nick Smith stated they" → "sample as "goosebump-inducing,"[56] while musicOMH's Nick Smith stated it"
• "thought the song was reminiscent of" → "found the song to be reminiscent of"
• Add a space after "Turn the Beat Around"
• Wikilink Spectrum Culture
  • Article was deleted. LOVI33 15:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
• "best use of a sample with the "My Woman" sample." → "best use of a sample with "My Woman"."
• "also named it" → "also questioned if it is"
• "pro-love song to date."" → "pro-love song to date"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "25th best song,[62] and writer" → "25th best song and writer", moving this ranking to the end of the section instead
• "Writing for Crack Magazine, Michael Cragg" → "For Crack Magazine, Michael Cragg"
• Remove wikilink on ballad per MOS:LINKSTYLE
• "dancefloor-ready bop."" → "dancefloor-ready bop"."
• "add a "jolt of nostalgia,"" → "adds a "jolt of nostalgia","
• ""out-of-body love experience."" → ""out-of-body love experience"."
• "are "non-committal," and the" → "are "non-committal" and the"
• "not make it "soar."" → "not make it "soar"."
• The Evan Sawdey review should come first, as that is not a negative one
• Separate rankings from the reviews by starting a new para for them
• "your better wishes."" → "your better wishes"."

 Done

Commercial performance

• "on the chart." → "on the Global 200."
• "on the chart dated" → "on the issue dated"
• "on chart, and charted for" → "on the UK Singles Chart, lasting for"
• The chart positions should be order geographically, so add the rest of the European ones after the UK, then North America followed by Oceania
• Any of the countries referenced in the lead must be mentioned, even if you simply say it reached the top 10 in them
• "at number 11 in its" → "at number 11 in the"
• "In the United States, the song" → "In the US, the song" per MOS:US
• Wikilink NZ Hot Singles Chart per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Mention where it was certified by the Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana (FIMI) and the date of certification
• Mention the date of the Polish certification too

 Done

Music video

Background and release

• "Canada attempted to gather" → "Serrano attempted to gather" per the source mentioning that it was him, not the company as a whole
• "found new meanings the rodeo elements" → "found new meanings of the rodeo elements"
• Wikilink music video on the img text
• Remove wikilink on London
• "Serrano recalled that she enjoyed" → "Serrano recalled she enjoyed"
• Pipe VFX to Visual effects
• "as well as adjusting the natural shadow of the horse." → "as well as adjusting its natural shadow." to be less wordy
• "It premiered on" → "It premiered via" to be less repetitive
• "This version features an opening of" → "This version opens with"
• "that is lyrics of" → "which is the lyrics of" but where is it sourced that they are reading a script at the beginning?
  • Promonews: "In the DC there's the initial dialogue following the lyrics of the song". LOVI33 03:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• "more shots of the rodeo clowns," → "more shots of the clowns," to be less repetitive
• Pipe final credits to Closing credits
• Where is it sourced that a rodeo clown, specifically, rides a horse?
  • Promonews source again. LOVI33 03:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done

Analysis and synopsis

• Img looks good!
• None of the first sentence is sourced; I am aware of MOS:TVPLOT but things like what title cards say still require sourcing
  • I think it is a appropriate per WP:PLOTCITE. LOVI33 04:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• "The visual starts out with a cowboy hat floating" → "Simultaneously, a cowboy hat floats"
• "Intercut scenes of her" → "Intercut scenes of Lipa"
• Pipe LED to Light-emitting diode
• The LEDs and green top are not directly sourced
  • The Wonderland reference shows a screenshot of the outfit, which I think should be appropriate considering WP:PLOTCITE. The source says miniature light bulbs so I changed it to that. LOVI33 04:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• [29][105] should solely be at the end of the sentence
• Wikilink slow motion
• "and hot pink cowboy boots." → "and pink cowboy boots." because hot is not encyclopaedic
• [103][29][105][106] should be put in numerical order
• "in another room while rodeo clowns do the same and" → "in the same bowl while rodeo clowns crack them too and" per the source
• "while also making omelettes." → "as well as making omelettes."
• "camo green cargo pants," → "camouflage green cargo pants,"
• [109] is not the correct source for invisible horse appearances
  • Source: "as cowboys ride invisible animals" but added another source to back up that it is for horses. LOVI33 04:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• "an anonymous person, with both of them wearing" → "an anonymous person; they both wear" to avoid overusage of with
• "onto her partners jacket." → "onto her partner's jacket."

 Done

Reception

• "was a metaphor for" → "may be a metaphor for"
• "while also comparing it to the video for" → "while also comparing it to the clip for"
• Remove wikilink on Madonna
• "Devon Ivie it a" → "Devon Ivie labeled the music video a"
• "that her "falling in" → "that "has us falling in" per the source
• "the video while calling" → "the video, while calling"
• "the choreography "TikTok" → "the choreography "a TikTok" with the wikilink
• "were more "surreal" while also stating that the clown makeup was" → "are more "surreal", while also stating that the clown makeup is"
• "on the mechanical bull." → "on the bull." to be less repetitive, but does this review really praise her performance or merely mention it?
  • Removed. LOVI33 04:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• "and praising its surreality." → "and praising the surreality."
• "the video give the song" → "the video gives the song"
• "rodeo fantasy" while commending" → "rodeo fantasy", while commending"

 Done

Live performances

• "She performed "Love Again" for" → "Lipa performed "Love Again" for" but the song being performed is not sourced
• "On 29 May 2020, she" → "On 29 May, she" but the song is not sourced as being part of the charity concert
  • Removed both of these. I'm pretty sure there were proper links attached to these sources before but they seem to have been removed and I cannot find a back up. Also, not the most reliable sources. LOVI33 04:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• Pipe livestream to Livestreaming
• Lipa's special quote is not sourced
  • She says it in the video attached to the source. LOVI33 04:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• "of the song, and the concert" → "of the song and the concert"
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Washington D.C. per WP:OVERLINK
• "a guitarist, and a" → "a guitarist and a" and the source does not state the exact number of backup singers is four
• Wikilink drum machine
• "she performed the track" → "the singer performed a stripped-down acoustic version of the track" with the pipe
• Pipe to Time 100 should only be on 2021 Time 100
• "41st BRIT Awards as part of her set list of a Future Nostalgia Medley" → "41st Brit Awards as part of her set list of a Future Nostalgia Medley"
• "on 17 September 2021." → "on 17 September." to avoid overusage of the year
• Unicef → UNICEF with the wikilink
• The source does not mention that the song was performed for the above concert
  • Removed. LOVI33 04:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done

Track listings

• Add the appropriate sources for these listings

 Done

Personnel

• Pipe Koz to Koz (musician)
• Pipe Clarence Coffee Jr. to The Monsters & the Strangerz

 Done

Charts

Weekly charts

• Good

Year-end charts

• The Croatia year-end position is not mentioned by the source
  • There is a link in the source to a PDF showing the full rankings. LOVI33 04:22, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• The 4 June 2021 release is only sourced for streaming by the ref
  • Add backup. LOVI33 04:29, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• Again, are you sure there is no name known for the Italy radio station?
  • Yes per above. LOVI33 04:29, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

See also

• Good

Footnotes

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks slightly too high at 45.4%; cut down quoting from the Promonews ref to fix this
• Pipe Zach Sang Show to Zach Sang on ref 4 and shouldn't that have a url-access parameter because the video is private?
  • The video was removed so I changed the url-status to dead as there is an archive. LOVI33 18:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• Remove or replace ref 6 per WP:NYPOST
• Pipe Vulture to Vulture.com on ref 14 per MOS:LINK2SECT and add the url-access limited parameter
• Crack Magazine → Crack on ref 16, piping to Crack (magazine)
• Remove or replace ref 17 per 411mania being a wrestling reviews website
• What exactly makes Vinyl Chapters a reliable source for ref 28?
  • Per the website there is an editorial team and several contributors leading me to believe it is not self published. LOVI33 18:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• Wikilink Spectrum Culture on ref 33
  • Article deleted. LOVI33 18:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 48
• Pipe Warner Music to Warner Music Group on ref 49
• Remove or replace ref 115 per discussion
• Replace ref 116 with one that shows the song was performed at the event, maybe the actual Amazon music listing?
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 121
• Pipe MegaCharts to Dutch Charts on ref 168

 Done

External links

• Remove Genius per WP:RSP
  • Replaced. LOVI33 18:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this is not one of your strongest but congrats on making it so big! --K. Peake 09:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review Kyle Peake. Apologies for taking so long with the comments, I've been very busy this week. I hope everything looks okay now. LOVI33 18:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

• LOVI33 Nice response, this came less than a week after the review was completed so I wasn't sweating it! However, when I said the production part is not written out in the body I meant mentioning that Koz was the sole producer, also if the Croatia year-end position is sourced from the PDF then why not cite that instead? --K. Peake 07:27, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake I have made these changes. LOVI33 17:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, good job on fixing the problems! --K. Peake 09:26, 13 May 2022 (UTC)