Talk:LoveGame/GA2
GA Reassessment
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This is the first time I'm doing a Good Article Reassessment (GAR). I was linked from WP:GA to the articles "LoveGame" and "Pararazzi (Lady Gaga song)" today and checked out their talk pages to see when they were promoted (LoveGame was in December 2009). It wasn't the first time something that wasn't promoted to GA recently had its name featured on WP:GA; I also saw Brazil listed as a good article on WP:GA in April/May 2014, but it has not been a good article yet. This (LoveGame) is not a professionally written recent good article (GA), it's an 4.5-year old GA with poor quality English and questionable sourcing, which is why I created this GAR. Note that I hate pop music, which is not why I'm doing this GAR.
Beside from that motive, here's other reasons for GAR:
- Tone-wise, the article feels like an advertisement.
- It's not in a neutral point of view and was possibly written by a fan.
- Some of the references are dead links.
}IMr*|(60nna)I{08:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- "Note that I hate pop music", and you want people to take this reassessment seriously? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for starting this review prematurely, I'll list random problems from the article here over time.
- Fix these links. Also archive all references.
- "The song was critically appreciated for its tune and the "I wanna take a ride on your disco stick" hook." What do you mean by "tune"?
- I replaced it with "rhythm" Snuggums (talk • contributions) 20:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Turn the quotes in "Background" into your original text.
- The "Music video" section needs less quotes, more clearer prose. (You can keep the quotebox there)
}IMr*|(60nna)I{20:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)- Why not more about how the music video was made instead of talking about the "subway station" setting?
- Rewrite the "Composition" section's clunky prose and give it more details.
- The whole "Chart performance" section has to be rewritten because of its poor, repetitive, potentially confusing prose.
- Same thing goes to the "Live performances" section.
- Merge single sentences into larger ones, especially if they consist of broken prose.
- Hello @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, thanks for taking this up. Please give me and @XXSNUGGUMSXX: some time as we are not familiar with this article, just on my watchlist for vandalism prevention. Some of them are very quesitonable sources I see especially in the chart performance section and I'm consulting WP:GOODCHARTS to find out how to remove them. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Let's have some fun, but don't let her ride on your disco stick too much :P. Snuggums (talk • contributions) 06:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Okay. I accept your comments. =D
}IMr*|(60nna)I{09:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:. I have finished cleaning up the article from all the dead links, dead jargons, spaces, rearrangements etc. How do you think the change is coming along? I will start the copy-editing of the prose now. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 11:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think the changes you made there are pretty good. Here's the diffs: [1].
}IMr*|(60nna)I{12:10, 1 July 2014 (UTC)- Also, I realized that Wikipedia users focusing on pop music (like you) are well done on their large-scale improvements of such articles.
}IMr*|(60nna)I{12:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, I have completed revamping the article. Please take a look at how it stands as I believe it is a strong article and worthy of keeping its GA tag now. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 12:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that it looks much better now. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 15:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- The article is better than before. Thanks! Here's the diffs: [2].
}IMr*|(60nna)I{02:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)- So can we close this and move on to "Paparazzi"? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:34, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes you may do so. I'm happy with the improvements you made here! =D
}IMr*|(60nna)I{02:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, umm no lol, you are the one who initiated it, so you have to close it per procedure listed at WP:GAR. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm closing it with a Kept verdict.
}IMr*|(60nna)I{02:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm closing it with a Kept verdict.
- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, umm no lol, you are the one who initiated it, so you have to close it per procedure listed at WP:GAR. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes you may do so. I'm happy with the improvements you made here! =D
- So can we close this and move on to "Paparazzi"? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:34, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- The article is better than before. Thanks! Here's the diffs: [2].
- I agree that it looks much better now. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 15:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, I have completed revamping the article. Please take a look at how it stands as I believe it is a strong article and worthy of keeping its GA tag now. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 12:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- Also, I realized that Wikipedia users focusing on pop music (like you) are well done on their large-scale improvements of such articles.
- I think the changes you made there are pretty good. Here's the diffs: [1].
- @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:. I have finished cleaning up the article from all the dead links, dead jargons, spaces, rearrangements etc. How do you think the change is coming along? I will start the copy-editing of the prose now. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 11:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hello @Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever:, thanks for taking this up. Please give me and @XXSNUGGUMSXX: some time as we are not familiar with this article, just on my watchlist for vandalism prevention. Some of them are very quesitonable sources I see especially in the chart performance section and I'm consulting WP:GOODCHARTS to find out how to remove them. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)