Talk:Louvre Abu Dhabi

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 26, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
October 4, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 14, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that a new Louvre museum is scheduled to be completed by 2012 in Abu Dhabi, UAE?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Louvre Abu Dhabi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
The lead seems very short and it would be best to summarize the entire article, per here.
The lead has been expanded to 678 characters, or two paragraphs. Jor dan ^Contribs 09:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
In the lead, a date is formatted to ---> "7 March 2007" and in the Development section you have, ---> "October 9, 2007". There needs to be a consistency with the dates, per here. The article tends to have "red links", if they don't have articles, it would be best to un-link them, per here.
The dates have been fixed, and the red links have been removed. Jor dan ^Contribs 09:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
It would be best if the references use the {{cite web}} format. Reference 16 needs to be formatted.
Reference sixteen has been fixed. Jor dan ^Contribs 09:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Half-check, the refs. need to use the cite web format. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
C'est finis! I've used the cite web template for all of the references.
Half-check. Reference 2, 12, 13, 15, and 17 are not properly formatted. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like its done now. Jor dan ^Contribs 16:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Does Reference 9 cover all this ---> "The French Museums agency will operate in collaboration with the Tourism Development and Investment Company (TDIC), which is behind the transformation of Saadiyat Island. It will be chaired by French financier and member of the country's Académie des Beaux-Arts, Marc Ladreit de Lacharriere, publisher of the periodical Revue des Deux Mondes. Bruno Maquart, the former Executive Director of Centre Pompidou, will take the position of Executive Director"? In the Locations section, is there a source for this ---> "In addition to the Louvre Abu Dhabi these will include: the Sheikh Zayed National Museum, to be designed by United Kingdom-based construction compamy Foster and Partners under the direction of Lord Noramn Foster; the Guggenheim Abu Dhabi contemporary arts museum - the world's largest Guggenheim and the only museum to be located in the Middle East; a performing arts centre designed by Zaha Hadid; a maritime museum with concept design by Tadao Ando and a number of arts pavilions"?
Reference 9 does indeed cover all of that information. As for the unreferenced info concerning new developments on Saadiyat Island, I have sourced it and provided a reference. Jor dan ^Contribs 09:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you to Jordan for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates

The coordinates don't seem to point to the right location. They don't point to a location on Saadiyat Island. Hektor (talk) 09:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested edits

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. 1) requested removal of a New York Times source as "unofficial" to be replaced with corporate source is inconsistent with WP:RS 2) too much PR-like copy 3) request for date change needs cite

John Nagle (talk) 07:51, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction and Cost and Cost Estimates Introduction: Last sentence of 1st paragraph. Cost and Cost Estimates: Entire two sections http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/arts/design/07louv.html?_r=0 Removal of entire sections as costs not official — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 07:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction Removal of second paragraph beginning "Artwork from around the world will be shown…the construction of the museum has caused much controversy in the art world, as many objections have been raised as to the motives of the Louvre in this deal." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 07:21, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Under History - First Paragraph "this museum was approved by the French Parliament on 9 October 2007" cited articles have moved or are inaccessible Change incorrect date to March 6, 2007 to the actual date is March 6, 2007

Introduction "On Tuesday 7 March 2007, the Louvre in Paris announced….." Change incorrect date to March 6. Louvre Paris announced on 7 March that the agreement was signed on 6 March.

History (and throughout article) Any text referring to The or A Guggenheim Abu Dhabi The correct way to refer to Abu Dhabi's Guggenheim museum is "Guggenheim Abu Dhabi"

Design (and throughout article) The Louvre Abu Dhabi versus Louvre Abu Dhabi Name of the museum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Construction "Construction works at Louvre Abu Dhabi officially started on 26 May 2009" Change to 'May' No specific day. Date cannot be confirmed.

Construction "Pillars that will support the 7,000 tonne dome" Total canopy weight is 12,000 tonnes which is broken down into the following: - Steel Structure weight: 7,000 tonnes – weighing almost as much as the Eiffel Tower - Aluminum cladding weight: 5000 tonnes

Construction TDIC announced the completion - March

Construction On 22 December 2014 the final..canopy was fitted

Construction In October TDIC announced that Louvre Abu Dhabi was more than 50% complete

Construction Display Cases - new information on The National under the title of The Story of The Final Piece of The Louvre Abu Dhabi's great Puzzle.

Brand and Visual Identity "The logo and typeface for the Louvre Abu Dhabi was designed by Studio Philippe Apeloig, and is implemented in both Roman and Arabic script. Frutiger typeface was extended to create Frutiger LT to accommodate use across different languages."

Architecture First paragraph describing the design of the dome Improve the article with some more details and information about the design inspiration and statements from Jean Nouvel. Suggestion for improvement. Here is a link you may find helpful http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/louvre-abu-dhabi-architect-jean-nouvel-sees-his-creation-come-to-life — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 06:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Collection Here is some information on works from the collection you might want to use that may help to improve the article. http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/the-strange-journey-of-the-indian-miniatures-to-be-displayed-at-the-louvre-abu-dhabi http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/largest-display-of-louvre-abu-dhabis-permanent-collection-to-be-unveiled-in-paris http://www.thenational.ae/uae/louvre-abu-dhabi-makes-debut-in-paris http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-louvre-abu-dhabi-buys-a-washington-portrait-by-stuart-1423256538 http://old.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Louvre%20Abu%20Dhabi%20acquires%20its%20first%20photographic%20works/27189 http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/louvre-abu-dhabi/experts-illuminate-a-celestial-beauty-at-louvre-abu-dhabi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 07:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Other Programmes "Also been working with Paris sorbonne…" Remove 'also' Louvre Abu Dhabi only worked with Sorbonne on master's programme and not any other institutions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 08:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Other Programmes Addition of information on Talking Art Series Here is some information on our Talking Art Series Programme that would improve the accuracy of this section http://www.thenational.ae/uae/abu-dhabi/talking-art-series-to-preview-opening-of-louvre-abu-dhabi http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/carving-out-a-new-experience http://www.thenational.ae/blogs/the-art-blog/louvre-abu-dhabi-talking-art-series-on-indian-miniatures-and-film http://www.thenational.ae/blogs/the-art-blog/tonight-louvre-abu-dhabi-talking-art-series-opens-the-topic-of-divine-light — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Management - Cost and Cost Estimate Removal of two sections as Louvre Abu Dhabi has not shared any costs, therefore the information can be incorrect and is not official — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction Addition of new paragraph in the introduction Here are some sources we think you would find useful. Please do not hesitate to request any material or clarification from myself on behalf of the museum. Links: http://louvreabudhabi.ae/en/about/Pages/intergovernmental-agreement.aspx http://louvreabudhabi.ae/en/about/Pages/a-universal-museum.aspx http://www.agencefrancemuseums.fr/en/le-louvre-abou-dabi/le-projet-scientifique-et-culturel/ http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/abu-dhabis-louvre-to-get-middle-east-art http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/louvre-art-on-display-in-abu-dhabi http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/art/exhibition-offers-a-glimpse-into-louvre-abu-dhabi http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/art/abu-dhabis-birth-of-a-museum-exhibition-opens-at-louvre-in-paris#page2" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture - First paragraph describing the design of the dome Improve the article with some more details and information about the design inspiration and statements from Jean Nouvel. While your description is not inaccurate, I thought you might be interested in some additional material on the design and its inspiration and consider including this in the material. Here is a link you may find helpful. http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/louvre-abu-dhabi-architect-jean-nouvel-sees-his-creation-come-to-life — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:33, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Construction - Cladding Addition of paragraph describing cladding and other structural details. The article could be improved with the following information published in Abu Dhabi's National newspaper as it is quite impressive from a construction point of view: "The cladding consists of 5,000 tonnes of supersized structural steel and 7,850 aluminium “stars”, while in the case of the buildings it involves 4,680 panels of a substance called ultra-high performance fibre reinforced concrete. " http://www.thenational.ae/uae/tourism/play-of-light-entwined-in-design-the-louvre-abu-dhabis-concrete-cladding-is-far-from-simple — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs) 09:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Collection Change Agence France-Museums to Agence France-Muséums for correct spelling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam Saleh AlDhaheri (talk • contribs)

Accent added as requested. Maproom (talk) 09:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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GA reassessment

Having no information on the museum's actual opening, the article doesn't meet the breadth requirements of the Good Article criteria. Many of the other sections should be expanded with details from the last several years. Also the controversy section, which should be avoided as a rule, can be redistributed into other sections of the article, minimizing the non-free quoting. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 19:05, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Controverses

During the last couple of weeks, editor 101.178.163.208 has repeatedly tried to insert a sentence about reactions to the human rights abuse concerns already mentioned. The addition was first reverted by N0n3up without any reason given. The subsequent reverts, one time by zchrykng and the other times by N0n3up, were done with reference to the need for talk page discussion. None of the editors has made any comment on the talk page, but in another connection N0n3up commented with although related to the article's topic doesn't look like it belongs in the correct section. The addition is sourced, and to me it looks relevant. I have therefore taken a look at the article to see if it could be structured to give the addition a better placement. It struck me that the subsection "Human rights abuse controversies" was not well placed in between the main controversy and its response. The simple solution is to lift out the Human rights concerns as a separate section, giving the new addition a quite natural place. Not too difficult, and hopefully killing the disruptive edit war. --T*U (talk) 18:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TU-nor: I have no objection to including it. I just stepped in from recent changes when I saw someone ignoring WP:BRD. The section in question does appear to need better organized/structured/written though. {{u|zchrykng}} ^{T|C} 20:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks TU-nor. I appreciate your help again. One question, whats wrong with the balcony photo? Why did someone add it?101.178.163.208 (talk) 07:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

101.178.163.208: Why it was added, I do not know. It is not suited for such a small format. It has lots of reflexes, and there are lots of tiny people. It is hard to see what is shows. Plus there are already two pics. --T*U (talk) 21:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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