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Loupé ! (missed ! in French)

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Not relevant. There is no French surname Loupé, according to the French dictionaries of stock French surnames I own, and Loup[p]e does not have anything to do with that, as a surname it meant 'grimace', 'funny face'.[1] It is a very rare name [ http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=loup%E9&submit=Valider&client=cdip]

*Loupé / *Loupe would have meant a diminutive form of Loup + -et ill spelled *-é, or a female form of Loup, that is to say loup + -e female ending in French from Latin -a. It is not the case, it is impossible, because diminutive form is Louvet, Louvel, Louveau, Louveton ″small wolf″, not *Loupet > *Loupé, and female form is louve from Latin Lupa, not loupe (which means wen in French). Intervocalic Latin -p- always turned into -v- in French (not in Italian, Spanish or Portuguese). In addition the original word for wolf is not loup but leu (Northern French) and lou(f) (western and central French), the additional -p was added quite late (15th century) by clerics and writers, to relatinize the language. more information on this serious site [1], so a surname could not have been created in the Middle Ages (when the surnames were created 12th - 13th century) on a word that did not even exist !

Such sites you mention do not know anything about that, because there are not written by specialists and they ignore the basis rules of French phonetics. I told you, the French names are (Le-)Loup, (Le-)Leu, derived forms Louvet, Louvel, Louveau, Louveton ″small wolf″, Occitan names Louvat, Loubat, Loubet

Nortmannus (talk) 11:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Albert Dauzat, Noms et prénoms de France, Librairie Larousse 1980, édition revue et commentée par Marie-Thérèse Morlet. p. 398a and b.