Talk:Louisiana State University/Archives/2015

History of LSU changes

Who changed the 'History' section? Whoever did, learn how to write before you edit an encyclopedia article. I changed it back.

New Change

I moved the "Recent Academic Achievments" section to the rear of the article because it's relatively superfluous. I deleted some achievments that brag more than give information about the University.

Superfluous - what's a University for if not academic achievments, football?

It was relatively superfluous compared to the information that was behind it. Good try, though.

infobox

The current info box has information in it that doesnt display, maybe we should convert it to a different info box. --Jason Fried 13:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Alumni question

Anyone have an authority for Aaron Copland ever attending LSU?

You can't mention that Edwin Edwards is a convicted felon and not mention david duke is.

After reading the alumni section, I saw that someone put that Will Wright, creator of "The Sims" was an LSU alum. After reading his profile, where it sites a San Francisco Newspaper, Mr. Wright did not graduate from LSU, only attended several years then he transfered several places, so I removed the reference. My question is should we consider him "notable" if he didn't graduate?

Many universities consider attendance without graduation from the university as meriting Alumni status. LSU is like this. You can enroll in the LSU Alumni Association if you have ever attended even one class. Off the top of my head, I believe that Texas, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss are the same way. Because LSU considers him to be an alumnus, I am putting it back in the wiki. --LSUMeathead 00:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Old version

Louisiana State University or LSU was founded in 1853 by the Louisiana General Assembly as Louisiana Agricultural and Mechanical. The first session beginning in 1860. LSU currently includes 9 senior colleges and 3 schools, in addition to specialized centers, divisions, institutes, and offices. Enrollment is more than 30,000 students, there are 1,300 full-time faculty members is a land-grant and a sea-grant institution.

LSU is located in Baton Rouge, bordered on the west by the Mississippi River. The University's more than 250 principal buildings are grouped on a 650 acre (2.6 km²) plateau, which constitutes the main part of campus. LSU's landscaping was called "a botanical joy" in its listing among the 20 best campuses in America in Thomas Gaines' The Campus as a Work of Art. The live oak trees on LSU's campus have been valued at $36 million. Through the LSU Foundation's "Endow an Oak" program, individuals or groups are able to endow live oaks across campus. LITERARY TRADITIONS

LSU is the home of The Southern Review, one of the world's most prestigious literary journals, established in the 1930s by Robert Penn Warren, Cleanth Brooks, and Charles Pipkin. ALUMNI

Among LSU's distinguished graduates currently "in the news" are:

Original text saved for further editing Louisiana State University is an amalgam of a number of institutions of higher learning around the State of Louisiana. There are actually two separate systems, alas, still stemming from segregation. The headquarters of the system are in Baton Rouge, the state capital. The white branch is referred to as LSU and the black branch is referred to as Southern University. The division between the two systems has spawned very unequal systems, with the white brach receiving far more resources up to the present day.

The university was founded before the Civil War, and Zachary Taylor was among its first leaders. Its first buildings are on Lafayette Street in Baton Rouge, across from the current state capital building. These buildings are still called "the pentagon." Comprising five separate, two story brick rectangular structures with large columned porticos on both sides, built originally as military barracks. They now house the offices of the Lieutenant Governor and other state officials, and have apartments for senior members of the state legislature.

Tulane University was founded as part of the Louisiana State System, but is now a private university.

Within the state the white branches are referred to with their initials. "White" branches, which are in four cities of the state, include:

LSU -- main campus in Baton Rouge.

LSU-A -- ...at Alexandria. (two year institution only)

LSU-Shreveport.

UNO -- the University of New Orleans.

HBC (Historically black colleges) include:

Southern -- main campus in Baton Rouge

Grambling -- in Ruston

Louisiana State University also runs a network of Charity Hospitals throughout the state, as well as major research and teaching colleges.

Earl K. Long -- in Baton Rouge

Charity Hospital, LSU Medical Center (which is further divided in more than 20 institutions) LSU Dental School, LSU School of Nursing -- all in New Orleans

This is a partial list of branches in the LSU system Due to politics, budgets, and other factors some of the names and connections within the system are always in flux.

The two systems are now 80-20 -- that is, the "white" part is 80% white and 20% black, while the "black" part is 80% black and 20% white.

LSU and Southern in Baton Rouge both maintain highly respected sports programs, with teams at LSU called the Tigers and teams at Southern called the Jaguars. Grambling also has a distinguished football program, with the longest serving football coach in college history just retired.

"Mike the Tiger" is a real live tiger that lives rather sumptuously on the main campus of LSU.

The song "Tiger Rag" is said to be derived from Mike the Tiger.

The LSU campus in Baton Rouge was heavily influenced, financed and even designed by Huey P. Long, legendary governor of the state in the 1920s.

IP 68.105.149.31

Ok, it seems some of the edits by this IP are good edits, some are bad. As I don't go there and there seems to be a lot of users watching this, I don't know which is which, can somebody please verify these edits? --AppleBoy[[User talk:Appleboy | ^Talk]] 17:09, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, weird. What's up with deleting the extlinks and notable alumni? I'll take a look. --Christopherlin 19:17, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Restored the alumni, moved stuff around. I suggest forking the alumni section to another article, though. --Christopherlin 19:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Football rivals

Someone recently added Ole Miss and Auburn as football rivals. Can someone vouch for the authenticity of this claim? Auburn I can see. But Ole Miss isn't even in the same league as LSU (this might be a relatively recent phenomenon and not represenative of historical trends). Any others?

And why no mention of the women's basketball team? They're one of the preeminent teams of this era and consistently ranked in or near the top 5.

--ElKevbo 05:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

"Important rivals in football include the University of Mississippi Rebels, University of Arkansas Razorbacks, and Tulane University Green Wave." added by anons in the last few hours. --Christopherlin 04:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

University of Mississippi is a definite rival. Although Ole Miss isn't necessarily in the same "league" as LSU, LSU has still lost to Ole Miss before - within the past five years, actually. It's a big deal every year whenever the "big LSU vs. Ole Miss" game comes around. And the Razorbacks are also a traditional rival - they're the last game every year for the team before the SEC championship (presuming that LSU goes, of course). Each year the location switches between Baton Rouge and Little Rock, and it's right around Thanksgiving (meaning the football team doesn't get to go home for Thanksgiving). Auburn is another big rival. And the University of Florida Gators, as well. HeatherRae 08:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Athletics

Does this article need to have a list of National Championship and SEC Championships in it? I maintain most of the LSU athletics related pages and that information is located there. See LSU Tigers (National Championships section). I think it is a big waste of space for the main university article to have all that stuff listed. Most people probably aren't looking up the University to read about its athletic accomplishments and if they are then they are directed to the main LSU athletics page and team subpages like LSU Tigers football and LSU Tigers baseball. Eventually there will be subpages for men's and women's basketball as well. Anyway, if no one objects I will delete the listing of championships from this article in a few days. Seancp 14:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The Full Name of this School

Is the full name of this school [The?] Louisana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College? Madmaxmarchhare 20:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it is the full name, so I changed the article to reflect, although I think the article should stay at its present location and not be renamed. Madmaxmarchhare 01:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, a redirect to this article should be sufficient. Thanks for noticing this and correcting the article! --ElKevbo 01:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right, in principal. But, man, who in the world is gonna type out all of that?? hehehe.. Madmaxmarchhare 01:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Does the entire name include "at Baton Rouge"? If not, it shouldn't be in the head paragraph or, at the very least, not bolded. Madmaxmarchhare 20:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope. The "Agricultural and Mechanical College" part only refers to the Baton Rouge campus, so it would be redundant to have "at Baton Rouge" in the name. Going to cut it now... --Boznia 22:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Logo color

That tiger logo displayed looks to me like it's MAROON and gold! Not that I really care, but it just looks very strange to me, since I've never seen an LSU log with maroon on it, and the colors are obvoiusly PURPLE and gold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.216.160.226 (talk • contribs) 18:26, November 8, 2006

Please move alumni to new article or list

The list of alumni in this article has grown ridiculously long. Please consider making a new article or list and moving this material. --ElKevbo 05:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. See list of Louisiana State University alumni. jareha ^(comments) 04:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hooray! It would not be at all inappropriate or out of line with other university articles if you wanted to keep a brief list of the most prominent, famous, notable, etc. alumni in this article, too. --ElKevbo 05:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Decibel level under Athletics section

The article attributes the measurement of 117 decibels to ESPN. However, if you check out the sign they hold in the 2003 game, the sign is from the LSU department of Physics and Astronomy. Two LSU Physics majors measured the sound in that game, and ESPN actually came over and borrowed the sign for a piece on the noise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.215.138.66 (talk) 00:11:10, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

land-grant, sea-grant and space-grant research center

The intro states:

"LSU is one of only twenty-one American universities designated as a land-grant, sea-grant and space-grant research center."

Where does that information come from? Thanks. Earthsound 20:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Hey all, I'll be reviewing this article for possible GA status. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the article does not merit GA status at this time. Please consider the below suggestions and feel free to renominate once these concerns have been addressed. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 23:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Writing and formatting

• The lead should serve as a summary of the entire article. The last paragraph of the lead should be expanded to include some of the information in "Student Life" and possibly other sections.
• Only the first letter in headings and subheadings should be capitalized (unless proper nouns). Also, special characters like "&" should not be included in headings
• The table of contents is very long - consider combining shorter sections to reduce its size
• Footnotes should be immediately punctuation with no space in between
• Links to disambiguation pages to be resolved: Quadrangle, Golden Boot, Tiger Stadium
• Should include more internal links (wikilinks), but should not link the same term more than once
• Needs general copy-edit for grammar, clarity + flow
• The list under "Rankings" should probably be converted to prose
• What's the difference between the Student Government and the Student Union? Not clear from the text

Accuracy and verifiability

• Need at minimum one citation per paragraph, usually more. All quotes, opinions and statistics must be cited.
• When a paragraph contains a lot on information, that means it needs more citations. A single citation at the end of a paragraph is not enough in such cases, in particular where that citation does not support all of the information in the paragraph
• Note which links require log-in or subscription to access
• Refs 4, 23 are broken
• Wikipedia is not a crystal ball (or a time machine) - try to avoid having sources that are accessed in 2010 (ref 4), or 2090 (ref 7). Also check for spelling and other errors in referencing. Make formatting as consistent as possible (probably easiest to use cite templates)
• Avoid tertiary sources like Britannica wherever possible
• All web references must have access dates
• Refs 28 and 34 lead to the same URL, but are formatted differently - should use the multiple ref format (refname); likewise for the other refs from that source
• Potentially contentious information should use reliable secondary sources, not sources from the school itself
• Refs 55-57 link to the same URL, as do 72 and 74

Broad

• The Sports section is too large and too detailed compared to the rest of the article
• Student population is mentioned only in the lead
• Funding information?
• Should explain what it means to be part of a state university system

Neutrality

• Lack of encyclopedic tone in places

       Can someone remove bias from this sentence?  In History section, under 20th century:  "By 1936, LSU had the finest facilities in the South, a top-notch faculty of 394 professors, a new medical school, more than 6,000 students, and a winning football team."   -- PVSpud  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PVSpud (talk • contribs) 21:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC) 

• Look at WP:WTA and WP:WEASEL - certain words introduce an editorial bias and should be avoided

Stability

No issues noted

Images

• Some problems with formatting - breaking up the text, extending off the screen, etc. Also, some of the images are quite large
• The "other versions" link on the panorama is broken
• Some of the pictures should be rearranged to better align with the text. For example, the "live oak" picture should be next to the text about the live oaks
• Were the Indian Mounds built over 5000 years ago, or around 5000 years ago? Caption's information should match with that in the text
• Images aren't meant to be pure decorations - unless there's a good reason to have two pictures of Foster Hall, only one is needed
• Captions are not exempt from the normal rules for article writing: they must be relatively grammatically correct ("Cheerleader" is not a proper noun), and they must be verifiable (what reliable source says that The Sims is the best-selling PC game of all time?)
• People that are not discussed in the "Notable alumni" section shouldn't have their picture in that section

Maps

http://www.lsu.edu/campus/maps/ is a campus map WhisperToMe (talk) 18:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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