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Mass Merge of Various Pleco Articles into Loricariidae

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Several users (including me) are thinking about merging several (< 11 total) tiny articles regarding pleco species into this article. At the most, this would include a little list of notable species because the individual articles more or less all say the same thing.

Any insight before the merge is done would be appreciated, however please comment on Talk:Plecostomus#Loricariid instead of here due so all the comments from other articles are kept in a central location. Keithieopia (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Identification on this page...

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The pictures of the fish identifies as Hypostomus plecostomus, and whilst it is POSSIBLE that the one sucking on the glass is correctly identified, I'm pretty certain neither is a Hypostomus. I think it is Pterygoplichthys pardalis - in the the case of the fish on the substrate, it has more than 8 dorsal rays, and combined with its pattern it can only be a Pterygoplicthys. The one sucking onthe glass is harder to say for sure, but here's my thouthgs: the fish is long/thin, where Hypostomus are a bit "stubbier", and the pattern on the belly of Hypostomus is more small spotted on a slightly darker base, rather than dark gray on a nearly white base.

Matsp100 (talk) 11:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Very Pretentious And Confused Writing Style

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Under "Description and biology", it says, for example:

"The modified mouth and lips allow the fish to feed, breathe, and attach to the substrate through suction."

Modified from what? Modified indicates the action of a third party. A much more correct term would be "unique" - or "unusual" - or better still, nothing at all. It's a mouth, and that's what evolution gave it. No better or worse or ... just different from other catfish - but even that isn't always true. This needs to be fixed.

Also, what does "attach to the substrate ..." mean? Why can't the author use plain English instead of throwing in the arcane term "substrate" Substrate of what? There is no prior definition of a surface or material being attached to. This word can apply to just about anything that has layers, including silicon chips (wafers). Why not just say: "attach to the feeding surface" or something a non-fish expert can understand.

I call this pretentious because the article goes out of its way to use jargon and "3-dollar" words when a simple word or term will suffice and make for much easier reading by regular people who are not fishy biologists. Save the jargon for scientific papers and journals. This isn't the place to show the world how "smart" you are. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 17:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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