Talk:Lola Marsh

Help request

Anovamusic2013 (talk) 11:09, 13 March 2019 (UTC) Help with getting the "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject" flag down. I am from the band crew and i updated their page. As I see it's a problem for the community and I will stop but can someone please help getting the flag down. thank you

The tag currently appears accurate. Removing it would only serve to hide that the article was heavily edited by someone with a close connection with the subject. Why would you want that?

The flag can be removed if there have been enough subsequent significant edits by uninvolved editors, so that you at some point cease to be a major contributor. There's not much you can do to make that happen (other than waiting and not editing the page further). Huon (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

You know exactly that "subsequent significant edits" is just what he was asking for, right? No need to scratch in the wound, right?YCH2277 (talk) 01:09, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi YCH2277 and Huon, I've just copyedited the article and removed most of the marketing speak, and I think it may be appropriate to remove the templates indicating bias in the article now. Let me know what you think. --Jwslubbock (talk) 15:10, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Jwslubbock, thanks for your effort, but I don't think we're there yet. Some examples of problematic content:

• "... before expanding their sound by bringing on additional musicians" - what does it mean to "expand sound"? I have no idea, and I rather doubt that "expanding their repertoire" is meant here. It's nice-sounding fluff without substance.
• "It quickly received millions of streams and reached number 5 on Spotify's list of the Top 10 Most Viral Tracks in the US." - there's no source cited for this statement, and the source for the next sentence is IMDb, hardly the kind of reliable source we'd need for such a claim. Luckily, Broadwayworld has something to say about this. Unfortunately, Broadwayworld contradicts the statement in part.
• "Soon after, they released their first video for the title track of the EP. It was directed by Colin Solal Cardo, who also directed their La Blogotheque session." - the source for this statement is a broken link that I couldn't quite recover, but from what Wayback Machine had, it's clear that it's Solal Cardo's website that in turn links to the video on Lola Marsh's YouTube channel. We need independent sources, not what the band says about itself on YouTube.
• "In April 2016 the band co-wrote an original song with Madsonik and Keith Power called "Drift And Fall Again", for the soundtrack of the feature film Criminal starring: Kevin Costner, Gary Oldman,Tommy Lee Jones.and more." - That's dropping unrelated names for the sake of fame by association. Worse, it also assigns the band more of the achievement than the sources do: It's a promotional falsehood.

I don't have the time right now to go through the article any further or even to correct these issues, but with two instances of falsehoods that happen to promote the band, on top of significant amounts of badly-sourced content, I don't think this article can be considered cleaned up yet. Huon (talk) 21:22, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Huon, I agree with all the above suggestions and so have simply removed anything that wasn't backed by a citation or didn't seem related to their WP:N. I know that labels in the music industry care about 'syncing' a lot, which is getting tracks played in TV series and commercials, so I've just taken all that stuff out because it's not notable and was probably added by their record company. See what you think now. --Jwslubbock (talk) 08:36, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Huon, if you don't have any other objections, I'll remove the templates tomorrow. Let me know if you have any further feedback. --Jwslubbock (talk) 10:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Jwslubbock, if you have checked the article and are confident that what remains is well-sourced and neutral, I have no objections to the removal of the tag. Huon (talk) 22:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi again Huon, I've done a further copyedit, removed a broken link and its corresponding paragraph about which label they signed to, removed the section about members at the bottom, done a further copyedit, and then removed the templates. I think it's pretty neutral now, but will watchlist it in case the label or someone else comes back to put stuff in that's not relevant for their notability. Thanks for your suggestions and contributions to the article. Jwslubbock (talk) 09:35, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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