Talk:Locations in the United States with an English name

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New York

Hi All, I have written here before but it seems to have 'gone away' New York is not named for the English City of York. is named after the James Duke of York, brother of King Charles II, who became the proprietor of the colony and so it was that the state and the city become called New York. i have changed this in the main text.

I'm not doubting that New York was named after a person, but with all due respect, I just can't remember this ever happening anywhere else -- that a place is a "new" version of a person, rather than a new version of a place. In rhetoric, this type of semantic license is forgiven, and called "personification," but I can't even think of one literal example in any language, that a "new" version of any thing is not called by the same noun as the original thing -- otherwise it would not be a "new" one of the old thing. Perhaps I don't understand, but it seems worthy of remark, or an explanation. 74.66.92.240 (talk) 19:58, 13 February 2016 (UTC)Clinton Burks[reply]

Move

I suggest that title be moved to Locations in US with an English Name Warrior4321^talkContribs 21:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resource for Additional Names

I did an analysis of U.S. place names, by state, that matched English place names. The results are automatically generated, so they are far from perfect. However, they might provide inspiration for a person who is looking for candidate names to add to this Wikipedia page. See States with Places with English Names for a link to the list of names and an explanation of the methodology for generating the list.

Skrause (talk) 01:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article useful?

It looks more like a list of towns with English-sounding names than towns definitely named for places in England. Take the various Washington and Lincoln entries, for instance. Those aren't "named after places in England as a result of English settlers and explorers"; they're named after presidents! How many other entries are incorrectly placed in this list? --JaGa^talk 19:35, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it should be kept, but it should be annotated and referenced to show that each American place is actually named after a specific English place, with links to the articles for both places. It would become more useful as the false matches are weeded out.--Hjal (talk) 00:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's bizarre isn't it, the intro clearly says New York is named after the Duke of York, not the city of York, but it somehow still gets into the list :) Sionk (talk) 03:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But you can't really decide. It's based on perspective. The Duke Of York got his title from the town York, so some people would think that New York still did (indirectly) get its name from the original town. Others would think that since it was the person who was honored, the place itself shouldn't get that credit. Not only might this article be useless, it might also cause controversy.Spbone (talk) 14:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Same with Rochester. Not named after Rochester the place, but after Nathaniel Rochester. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.151.189.61 (talk) 14:30, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wellington, etc.

There are at least 10 places called Wellington on the list. Chances are *unless there is evidence to the contrary* they were named after the most famous Englishman of the early 1800's, the Duke of Wellington. I propose to remove them from the list.
Similarly with Washington, most places with that name are likely to be named after a certain notable American! Sionk (talk) 04:42, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Still, all the Wellingtons were still named after the Wellington, INDIRECTLY. I mean, a Duke's title is given to him because of the town - the place - itself! Another example is Washington D.C. was named after the president, but the if the president was named after the place, then Washington D.C. did get its name from an English place, indirectly! It's arguable, but I believe they all came from English places.Spbone (talk) 14:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Make the article BIGGER!

Make it reach a larger audience. Personally, I'd prefer something like "List of places in CANADA and the United States named after places in Europe". Better yet, something like "List of places in CANADA and the United States named after PEOPLE and places in Europe". I say this cause several U.S. places originate from other places in Europe (for example, New Orleans comes from France), and cause Canada has several places named after European places. Also, we could avoid people complaining about NY not being named after a place if we added PEOPLE to this list. There are other places, like the Carolinas, that are named after European people. Spbone (talk) 14:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs help

There are several issues here.

What are we defining as "named after a place in England"? Does recursive naming count? For instance, Sherwood, Oregon is supposedly named after Sherwood, Michigan, which itself is supposedly named after Sherwood Forest.
Likewise, if it is named after a person whose last name came from a place in England, does that count? How can we be sure that is the origin of their name?
A lot of entries on this list are inaccurate, and conflict with their Wiki page, which explicitly state that they're named after other things.

I think this needs to be clarified and the page cleaned up. It seems more logical to name things after place names rather than people names, as it is much more verifiable. Titanium Dragon (talk) 07:15, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cleveland?

Should Cleveland Ohio be included, since it is named (I presume) after the former English County? Since I can't verify this for sure, I haven't added it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.151.218 (talk) 19:15, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Cleveland was named after General Moses Cleaveland of the Connecticut Land Company.  John beta (talk) 19:39, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from redundant article

List of place names of English origin in the United States seems to be largely redundant to this article. This article seems better sourced, so it might be a good idea to see what entries from the "English origin" article need to be here and then turn the other one to a redirect. — daranz [ t ] 12:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like pretty much the same content on the two pages, so I'll execute the merge. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 02:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The other page

~~Is here: Talk:Locations in the United States with an English name/List of place names of English origin in the United States Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 03:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)~~[reply]

Now it's here: Talk:Locations in the United States with an English name/Not yet added

Clearwater, Florida

Is clearwater a English name origin? I’m wondering. RedProofHill123 (talk) 01:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Albion

There are a few places in the United States named Albion. I can think of Albion, Pennsylvania and Albion, Illinois off the top of my head. I know this isn't a place in England, but rather a name for Great Britain. Should it be included nonetheless? TornadoLGS (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stockton California

There is a Stockton-on-Tees in County Durham, England. I figured this should be here since Newcastle is, and Newcastle in England is actually called Newcastle-upon-Tyne Munsey00 (talk) 05:56, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 10:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Locations in the United States with an English name → Locations in the United States with a name from England – Regardless of language origin, all names of cities in the United States are English proper nouns. Los Angeles comes from a Spanish phrase meaning "the angels", but as the name of the city in California, it's English. Georgia guy (talk) 14:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 18:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, title is consistent with others in Category:English place names in other countries. 162 etc. (talk) 16:39, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject United States has been notified of this discussion. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 18:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not all names in the US are English names. Log Angeles is an example of that. But I agree that the current title is just bad as "with an English name" does not have to mean :with a name from England". Gonnym (talk) 03:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the value of this article. We aren't getting Locations in China with a Chinese name anytime soon. Super Ψ Dro 13:29, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Wouldn't List of locations in the United States named after locations in England be a better title? -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"locations in the United States with an English name"

Technically, that's all of them. Yes, even including things like "Los Angeles" and "Baton Rouge". Those are the English names of those places. What is meant is "locations in the United States named after locations in England".--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]