Talk:Llullaillaco/Archive 1

Archive 1

Pronunciation

Removed alleged pronunciation until references are given. I don't see any reason why kollas in the region would change the "ll" into "y". --84.42.146.44 19:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Possibly because Spanish is the dominant language of the region, and the language of those who would have first written the language down. Spanish would no doubt have been used as a reference for kolla orthography. If English speakers encountered a hitherto unwritten language no doubt we would write it down using something similar to our spelling system - there would be no reason to believe we'd opt for a Spanish system. Booshank 23:47, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The Spanish "ll" is pronounced somewhat differently in different regions: in some places it is very similar to English "y" and in others it is more like a palatalized "l". Not sure what the exact regional pronounciation of "ll" would be in Northern Chile. Of course, as noted above, this is a necessarily inexact rendering of an indigenous word into Spanish. So what the truly correct pronunciation is, I'm not sure. -- Spireguy 16:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Reverted external link again

The sites "[Fraud of the mumies] [[1]]" and "Llullayllaco technical data (span.)" [[2]] have been removed, because they are in violation of Wikipedia's policy of not providing links to sites containing personal attacks as follows: "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia." and "...some types of comments are absolutely never acceptable: Linking to external attacks..." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_Personal_Attacks

I reverted the external link again for the following reasons, as per WP:EL. (1) It's not very necessary as it does not add much info. (2) It's a semi-commercial link. (3) It's in Spanish, and this is the English Wikipedia, so English-language links are preferred. -- Spireguy 04:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Assessment comment

This comment has been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages. Ruodyssey (talk) 11:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
ths volcanoe seem like it would be dormant but i dont really know if its extinct or not . i actulley have found out that Llullaillaco is located in argentens , chile or as you may say south america . i dont now who discovered it yet . the elevation is 6,739 meters ( 22,11 ft ) . i belive that the volano is a starto volcano and it actully is active but also may be dormant . umm this volcano can also have many avalanches in the winter , summer , and any time of the year . also i belive that it is also the highest historically active volcanoe and it last erupted in 1877 and the age of the rock is pleistocene. and that is all i know so far about this volcanoe .Hi its eli

Diet of the mummies

edited the mention that the mummy children had had an increased consumption of cocoa in the year before death as this seems unlikely, cacao is a Mexican, not Andine product. If there is reason to believe it's indeed chocolate and not coca that is meant, please discuss evidence here before risking an edit war. --Svartalf (talk) 19:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adityavagarwal (talk · contribs) 17:17, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I am trying a good article review. Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:17, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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There are a few errors based on the good article criteria.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   "The volcanic zones are separated by areas where the angle of the subducting plate is flatter and volcanism is absent." is it angle between the subducting plate and something? Maybe something might be missing there.

   "Llullaillaco is located c. 300 kilometres (190 mi) east of the Peru-Chile Trench.[10] The Wadati-Benioff zone is 180 kilometres (110 mi) deep.[11]" what is the c? There may be something over there right?

   "With a summit height of 6,723 metres (22,057 ft) it is the second highest active volcano in the world after Ojos del Salado (6,887 metres (22,595 ft), 27°07′S 68°33′W).[15][1]" perhaps there is a comma missing.

   " An alternative height is 6,739 metres (22,110 ft).[2]" can be merged with the preceding line right? "With a summit height of 6,723 metres (22,057 ft), and an alternative height is 6,739 metres (22,110 ft), it is the second highest active volcano in the world after Ojos del Salado (6,887 metres (22,595 ft), 27°07′S 68°33′W).[15][1]" instead?

   "Dos Naciones, Cerro Silla, and Cerro 5074" could be referenced to their wikipedia articles as well right? Similarly for other such things. It might be easier for the reader to refer to.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

@Adityavagarwal: The "c" is a display form of the {{circa}} template. The smaller volcanoes around Llullaillaco do not have Wikipedia articles for the most part. Got the other issues. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

The article seems fine and nice. Nice work. Adityavagarwal (talk) 07:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Coverage of the "summit mice"

(Courtesy pings to Eric Kvaalen who added the mention to the article and SandyGeorgia who raised it on my user talk page) I've cut back the discovery of the summit mice a little, as it's not so important in the grand scheme of things to merit a whole section in the lead. I've reformatted the references to use the citation format of the article; anyone know how long it will take for the pre-print to be formally published? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree with reducing the content in the lead; content in the body looks good. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Present-day worship?

This book implies that the mountain is worshipped to this day and visited for this reason (p. 68 Currently, some of the most famous mountain regions visited for religious reasons include Kailash in China, the Kii mountains and Mount Fuji in Japan, Mount Sinai in Egypt, Coropuna and Ausangate in Peru, and the Llullaillaco volcano in Argentina, among others. and p.28 Many other mountains of the world are known for their sanctity. Mount Kii (1,914 m) and Mount Fuji (3,776 m) in Japan; Mount Sinai (2,285 m) in Egypt; Mount Coropuna (6,425 m), Mount Ausangate (also 28 Mountaineering as a form of tourism Auzangate, Quechua: Awsanqati) (6,384 m), and the Cinajara or Sinaqara glacier (5,471 m) in Peru; and the Llullaillaco volcano (2,344 m) in Argentina are the best examples of this form of spirituality.) but I am not sure if the book is a reliable source for this type of information and I don't know of any other source that discusses this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Climate data

Parking this source in case it's reliable for climate data. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Animal enclosures?

This source claims that animal enclosures were found at high altitude, but I am not sure if it's qualified to make such an interpretation. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Ton error

Llullaillaco#Composition includes {{convert|210000|tons}} which is an error. There is no such thing as tons. Instead, the unit should be ST (short tons) or LT (long tons) or maybe tonne (metric tons). Johnuniq (talk) 06:06, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Fixed, the correct way to write tons is something I keep getting confused over. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I have to look it up every time! Johnuniq (talk) 03:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Seeking permission to change existing ref tags to sfn ones

Currently the article uses a mix of ref and sfn tags, which is a bit awkward to use especially when a source is multiple pages long and its usage changes. I'd like to have permission to swap to a sfn only style. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Seeing no objections, I'll action this now. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)