Talk:Llan Ffestiniog

Hi,

I would just like to point out that when Llan is also a small village in Powys, about 2 miles away from Llanbrynmair. Llan used to be called Llanbrynmair before the name was moved to the village now called Llanbrynmair(Previously Wynnstay) This was changed once the main road was built there?

212.140.160.118 13:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to point this out, because I actually LIVE in the village.

13 May 2007, 1.10pm

"Llan" should be a disambiguation page listing all settlements in Wales starting with it. Every one of these can and probably is referred to Llan colloquially. Born Acorn 20:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I Disagree as Llan Ffestiniog is Llan Festiniog, While Llan is called Jsut Llan, thats all it has on the sign as you enter the village.212.140.160.118 13:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the redirect "Festiniog" as this was more an English term relater to the railway --Keith 19:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Paragraph on tribal enclosures

I have moved the following paragraph to Llan place name element:

It is believed that the "llan" epithet originated not just for an enclosure, but more importantly the 'tribal enclosure' and possibly just 'tribe'; when the original peoples arriving after the last Ice Age, were nomadic. With the coming of the first Celtic Christian missionaries, these early christians sought to place their centres of worship in an area of some security. With the conversions of the tribes, this obviously fell within the tribal compound, the llan. With the disintegration of the tribal boundaries, all that remained of most of these enclosures was the church, or at best a walled village or town. The original meaning of 'llan' with its tribal connotations disappeared. That is except for Scotland where the 'llan', or its more easily pronounced sibling 'clan', remains. (See also Llan place name element).

—Dah31 (talk) 19:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)