Talk:Ljuboten incident

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At least two reliable sources reported that fighting between Macedonian and Albanese insurgents forces erupted after the blast of three land mines under a Macedonian APC. Even in the case that the claim of friendly fire by NLA sources is true, most sources agree that Albanian insurgents engaged the Macedonian forces in the aftermath. Therefore, if the article's topic is to be regarded as a military conflict and not an accident, the result was clearly an NLA victory.-- Darius (talk) 23:09, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was never a land mine and it was a Macedonian army victory Boris wasn't even engaged in the attack the attack was to kill Johan tarculovski but the opposite happened the result was a Macedonian army victory Walter white502930291 (talk) 11:07, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you cite any reliable sources to support your claim? Darius (talk) 12:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belive me I'm trying but Wikipedia won't let me save my changes becouse of the sources I give for some reson Walter white502930291 (talk) 06:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's clear that there was victor in this at all. It's not a requirement that this parameter is completed. Unless there are clear sources that explicitly state that it was victory for one side or the other, which the sources in the article currently cited don't, then this is probably better left blank, or changed to See aftermathGugrak (talk) 09:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

how was it a Macedonian army victory when they were forced to retreat and came back 2 days after the attack to kill albanian civilians? GermanManFromFrankfurt (talk) 20:50, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]