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Harvard

Hello, Liz Murray did graduate from Harvard, on June 4th, 2009. You can see that on her wikipedia page.

I have edited the page so readers can have a full perspective on the life of Liz Murray, and so they do not presume she completed her undergraduate studies at Harvard. Please respect this edit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bluevanmeer (talk • contribs)18:32, June 19, 2007.

Please check the archive; this issue has been addressed. The content you added is original research, and per WP:BLP, it cannot be included. Joie de Vivre ^T 22:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not original research; it is common knowledge avaliable to all who watch the movie "Homeless to Harvard." At the end of the movie, it says "Liz left Harvard in 2003."

Please sign your comments by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end. This will provide the time and date stamp.

I am not certain as to whether a film can be used as a source. Regardless, if you are telling the truth, then all the film says is "Liz Murray left Harvard in 2003". You can't extrapolate from that into stating whether or not she has graduated; it's been three years. Joie de Vivre ^T 01:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bluevanmeer 22:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Ok, so I changed the page to say Liz Murray left Harvard in 2003, since that is what the movie says.Bluevanmeer 22:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You really, really should read WP:BLP. I will continue to remove any unsourced material added to this biography on a living person. It simply is not allowed to be here. Please read the page at the link I provided. Joie de Vivre ^T 03:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the information is in the film, it is public, common knowledge. I think that is obvious.

really —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.51.21 (talk) 03:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

She returned to Harvard after her father died, and completed her undergrad in 2008. Referencing a film is problematic, even if nonfiction it represents a tiny point in time for a living person. Example: anyone who watched Serpico is told that he left and never came back, in reality he came back a few years later. Same situation with Liz Murray. She constantly reminds everyone that she is not phenomenal, not a super-genius and that she is still surprised she got into Harvard. She still struggles somewhat with learning, and took time off to help her family, so it should not be a major surprise that it took her longer than average to complete her degree.98.225.230.65 (talk) 16:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Even if permission is provided, this material is unlikely to be retained, as it is clearly promotional in nature. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this is an artical from a chinese girl

Hello,

 Liz Murray !
 I'm a chinese girl,from Jiaxing City, Zhejiang Province .I like you very much!
 Your movie gives me an encouragement!
 I will use my every potential to do that.I just always knew that I need to get out.I have to do it.I have no choice.
 Thanks your story very much!

                                                                                            Crystal  shen

this is an artical from a chinese girl

Hello,

 Liz Murray !
 I'm a chinese girl,from Jiaxing City, Zhejiang Province .I like you very much!
 Your movie gives me an encouragement!
 I will use my every potential to do that.I just always knew that I need to get out.I have to do it.I have no choice.
 Thanks your story very much!

                                                                                            Crystal  shen

this is an artical from a chinese girl

Hello,

 Liz Murray !
 I'm a chinese girl,from Jiaxing City, Zhejiang Province .I like you very much!
 Your movie gives me an encouragement!
 I will use my every potential to do that.I just always knew that I need to get out.I have to do it.I have no choice.
 Thanks your story very much!

                                                                                            Crystal  shen  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.140.14.158 (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

寒假中我有幸看了一本好书《风雨哈佛路》。这是“一个最贫穷也最勇敢的哈佛女孩”的自传。此书被《纽约时报》评为2010年度超级畅销书。作者莉丝·默里用自己坎坷的亲身经历，写下了此书，这是关于爱，宽恕，觉醒，与奋斗的人生历程，她将此书献给所有身处困境的人。书中主人公的经历使我为之感动。

莉丝出生在纽约的贫民窟，属于80后。莉丝的父母贩毒，吸毒，没有工作。一家人全靠政府发放的救济金维持生活。可是，每个月的救济金一拿到手，父母就找毒贩子兑换成可卡因注射在自己的身体里，换取一时的“快活”。她们姐妹俩吃了上顿没下顿，家里值钱的物品都卖了，兑换成毒品。实在没钱了，母亲就去乞讨，卖淫，还是为了吸毒。上学了，莉丝破旧肮脏的衣着，和藏在头发里的虱子让她受到同学嘲弄。终因她屡次逃学，被送进了女童院。从女童院出来后，她们这个家终于破碎了。莉丝不愿意住在妈妈的姘头布里斯的家中，开始了流浪生活。她流落街头，靠拾捡垃圾，偷东西等维持生活，有时悄悄留宿在朋友家中…..后来，莉丝的母亲因为艾滋病死亡，莉丝深受触动，她下定决心要改变生活，改变命运,要重返高中。她进入了预备高中，无处安身的莉丝经常在地铁站、楼梯间、走廊里学习，睡觉。在老师的帮助鼓励下，她给自己制定了严格的学习计划，4年的学分课程她用2年完成，成绩全A。获得《纽约时报》一等奖学金，终于跨进了哈佛大学的校门。并受到了美国总统的接见。

我觉得这本书没有冠冕堂皇的大道理，却是一部真实的励志传记。还真实反映了一个人的善良心灵。尽管莉丝出生在如此糟糕的家庭里，但是她从小就很懂事，在莉丝的心里，家庭是很重要的，所以她不愿意随着妈妈、姐姐搬到布里斯家中。虽然父母吸毒，还身患艾滋，但是她对父母的爱，父母对她的爱，她对家庭的依恋仍旧隐现在字里行间，莉丝在成长过程中不论遇到任何困难，她始终都觉得自己是完整的，她的童年即使再穷再苦再艰难！也是跟着爸爸妈妈一起度过的，她没有怨恨父母，没有抱怨家庭。她感觉在妈妈的怀抱里是最安全最温暖的。莉丝的父亲虽然放荡，但是他爱看书，让莉丝也继承了他的这个嗜好，以至于很多次升学考试都被莉丝轻松拿下了。或许就是凭借这种爱的执着和力量，使得莉丝能够乐观顽强地生活下去，并对未来充满着希望与追求。

莉丝走过的道路是艰难曲折的，有些人是不可能走出这深渊的。但是莉丝在绝境中一直

相信，在她生活圈的另一边，还有一个光明的世界，还有另一种活法。尽管她与这个世界相隔很远，但她始终在追求着，不放弃。这种坚强信念促使她一步步走出绝境，迎来光明的曙光。莉丝有梦想；有信仰，她的精神坯胎是健康的，有足够的心理能量战胜一个个困难，顽强地生活下去，因此最终改变了自己的命运。“只要信念不倒，只要梦想尚在，我就有能量，我就不会停下，一直向前。”

看了这本书，我想，同是80后；90后，我们对比莉丝的家庭环境，能比她更糟吗？我们对比莉丝的生活，能比她更艰难吗？我们对比莉丝的成长经历，能比她更坎坷吗？那么，我们能像莉丝那样对父母；对他人有一颗宽容的爱心吗？我们能像莉丝那样在逆境中有勇气和力量觉醒；并且改变自己吗？我们真应该扪心自问：你的努力与她相差多远？你尽力了吗？Bold text--121.57.100.9 (talk) 06:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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