Talk:Live from Death Row

"supposed to have killed"

Current version: ...the widow of Daniel Faulkner, the man Abu-Jamal is supposed to have killed,

Edit to: ...the widow of Daniel Faulkner, the Philadelphia Police Officer, whom Abu-Jamal was convicted of murdering, ^ Commonwealth v. Abu-Jamal, Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas, First Judicial District, Philadelphia, Case Nos. 1357-59.

EDIT TO DISAGREE! Appealing to authority is not appropriate in a fascist, racist system. I suggest

"the man Abu-Jamal is supposed to have killed and was convicted of murdering despite lingering questions about the fairness of the trial and the exclusion of evidence." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lethomme (talk • contribs) 18:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A statement about a documented conviction does not need the citation of the court case; newspaper/media article are sufficient. An edit related to questions about the fairness of the trial need to be similarly supported by a cite to a Reliable Source (likely found in the bio article about him.) But, material related to the trial is more appropriate in the bio article about Abu-Jamal, rather than in the book he wrote.Parkwells (talk) 12:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the text this section was referring to in the article. I suspect it has been moved to another article or removed entirely, thus making this section moot. I nevertheless created the section header so the discussion would not be awkwardly floating above the table of contents. Smcpeak74 (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit as book article

This article is supposed to be about Abu-Jamal's book, but it seems to get into too much content that better relates to the bio article about him. For instance, references to supporters who appealed his case, musicians who referred to him in songs, or included elements of a speech, belong in the bio article about him.Parkwells (talk) 12:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Complete as book article

Books are often reviewed, and this work by a prominent journalist and activist was likely discussed in media. How did people react at the time? His points about the biases and racism of the justice system, adverse effects of mandatory sentencing, and other ills, continue to be made, for instance in Ava DuVernay's documentary 13th.Parkwells (talk) 12:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Remove references to Abu-Jamal in music, etc.

The section about musicians referring to Abu-Jamal in their music, and related content has been moved to the bio article about him. It is more appropriate there than in this article about his first book.Parkwells (talk) 00:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Label "murderer" in the lead sentence

Per a recent edit, Abu-Jamal was described in the lead sentence as "an American murderer, journalist, and activist", with the word "murderer" having been inserted. I think this insertion violates NPOV because it establishes an aggressive rather than neutral tone due to the judgmental language, and it implies the factuality of the murder (which is contested) rather than the conviction (which is not). As the subject is a living person, WP:BLP applies. Therefore, I'm about to revert the edit without waiting for discussion.

As I understand the Wikipedia policies, a controversial label should only be applied when a person is commonly described that way in reliable sources. So, if an editor thinks the label "murderer" is appropriate, please provide citations to demonstrate that the subject is commonly described as such in reliable sources. Smcpeak74 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a related discussion in the talk page of the article on Mumia Abu-Jamal. Smcpeak74 (talk) 13:47, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]