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Some notes

A few brief notes and a bit of background to the compilation of the list:

For some reason, there seems to be no list on the internet anywhere of the receipients of the Lister Medal, so I've compiled this list from separate scraps of information in biographies and announcements in back issues of journals. I tried the website of the Royal College of Surgeons of England, but found nothing. When the list is finished, I intend to ask them to corroborate it, and hopefully something official might appear on a website somewhere. Carcharoth (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Still missing

Four are still missing from the pre-1997 era, and three from the post-1997 era:

Total of seven to find. 22 found already. Carcharoth (talk) 00:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Later Lister Memorial Lecture

See here for the Lister Memorial Lecture set up in 1944 by the Society of Chemical Industry. Carcharoth (talk) 01:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

More sources

  • Moore's Lister Oration is here.
  • The title for Moore's talk was: "Lister Oration, 1979. Science and service" - searching the "Annals of The Royal College of Surgeons of England" may help.
  • This bit here pins down Calne to 1984: "Calne R. Organ transplantation: from laboratory to clinic (Lister Oration). Br. Med J 1985; 291: 1751- 1754." - see here.
  • Also search PubMed central to get many of the Lister Orations, remembering to be careful to note the Canadian one that is something different... (plus one very obscure Australian Lister Medal).
  • Some Lister Medal announcements:
    • moved to own section below
  • Still looking for 1981. Possible the medal went defunct after 1997. Searches in the Annals of the Royal College of Surgeons of England are drawing a blank, though at some date (as with many journals entering the modern era), the "society" and "notices" section of the journal got split off into a Bulletin. In this case, the Bulletin of the Royal College of Surgeons of England. Recent issues of that are online, but not very searchable. Looking through some issues for 2005 and 2006 has failed to come up with anything. Need to find out when the split happened. Should be able to find the 1981 award announced in the Annals. Back issues of which are here.

That's enough for now. Carcharoth (talk) 20:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Lister Memorial Fund

See here for the history of the Lister Memorial Fund. Carcharoth (talk) 20:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Lister Lecture and picture of medal

See here for a picture of Cushing's medal and a signed offprint of his 1930 lecture being offered for sale at $2,750! Carcharoth (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Medical Association Lister Oration

See here for confirmation of the founding of the Canadian Lister Oration: "[Stewart] was founder of the Canadian Listerian Oration, 1924.". Carcharoth (talk) 21:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Australian Listerian Oration

Remember to search for "Listerian" as well as "Lister".

  • 1922
  • Charles Bickerton Blackburn "gave the 1923 Lister Oration in Adelaide" - presumably the obscure Australian one
  • 1927
  • Plus the history of this Australian award from one of the PDFs

To be updated. Carcharoth (talk) 22:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

History of the Australian award: "The history of the Lister Oration and Medal This Oration and Medal was established by the South Australian Branch of the British Medical Association in 1914; the first Oration was delivered on Thursday, June 25th of that year. On that day the new premises of the Branch was opened. Subsequently, this annual Oration became recognized as the most important scientific event in the calendar of branch Scientific Meetings. In 1948 it was delivered by one of South Australia’s famous sons, Sir Hugh Cairns. There has been no Lister Oration since 1979. The obverse of the Lister Medal shows a portrait of Lord Lister 1827-1912, and on the reverse is inscribed ‘British Medical Association, South Australian Branch, Lister Oration’. Wood Jones’ Lister Oration 1926 ‘Before a large attendance of members of the South Australian branch of the British Medical Association at Lister Hall, Hindmarsh Square [Adelaide] on Thursday evening [May 27thl Professor F. Wood-Jones, F.R.S. of the Adelaide University, was heard with close attention during his lecture on “Disease and Individuality ’ ’. ’" from Frederic Wood Jones - his academic medals and those they honoured by B. E. Christophers, Aust. N.Z. J. Surg. (1995) 65, 122-134. Carcharoth (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Lister Festivals

Might be room for an article on Listeriana (the collection of material to do with and commemorating Lister). At the height of the Lister Medal awards there were "Lister Festivals":

Have a look through these for some of the history. Also the announcements and unveiling of various statues. Carcharoth (talk) 21:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Some useful sources for filling in details for the redlinks:

To be updated. Carcharoth (talk) 22:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

More on the Lister Orations

The Cushing, Ballance and Muir lectures (or abstracts of them) were published in the Lancet and are all available online (for a fee). The Cushing paper seems to have been in two parts. The Cheyne lecture seems not to have been published in a journal, but is available online (seems to have been published as a book). The Ballance lecture seems also to have been published as a book.

The Leriche lecture was published in the British Medical Journal. Evarts Graham published his lecture in the Annals of the Royal College of Surgeons of England (which began publication in 1947). This is possible because Evarts Graham, although he was awarded the medal in 1942, was unable (maybe due to World War II) to deliver his lecture or collect the award, until 1947. Florey, who won the award in 1945, gave his lecture that same year (although he was Australian, he lived and worked in the UK for most of his career) and published it in the British Medical Journal. Jefferson (1949) also published in the British Medical Journal. From Lermonth onwards, publication has been in the Annals of the RCSE, with the exception of Roy Yorke Calne (British Medical Jounrnal).

Still need to find lecture title and details and online copy for:

  • Eiselsberg (1927)
  • Kirklin (1972)
  • Charnley (1975)
  • Gibson (1987) Forrest (1987)
  • Hopkins (1990) - The development of the modern endoscopes - present and future prospects
  • Shumway (1993/4)
  • Morris (1996/7)

Carcharoth (talk) 00:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Updated 04:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Unreliable source?

See: here

"Professor Sir (Andrew) Patrick (McEwen) Forrest; Lister Medal, Royal College of Surgeons of England, 1987"

Possibly this is a mix-up with a Scottish or other "Lister" award (there are quite a few out there). Carcharoth (talk) 00:52, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This has been raised in a section below as well. Carcharoth (talk) 03:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Ballance Oration

LISTER AND HIS TIME; The Lancet, Volume 221, Issue 5720, 15 April 1933, Pages 815-817; Charles Ballance

"Abstract of the Lister Memorial Lecture delivered at the Royal College of Surgeons of England, on April 5th, 1933."

This might be contradicting what was said on Surgicat (the RCSE archives): "Lister memorial lecturer in 1933, “On nerve surgery”, and on this occasion he received the Lister memorial medal for his distinguished contributions to surgical science"

Probably need to look at the PDF to find out (it turns out that the Lancent 'article' was an abridged account of the lecture written in the third person, so it likely to have been merely someone writing an account of the lecture for the Lancet.

Also, from the Amazon link (already on the talk page), it seems that the longer version of all this was published as a 77-page book:

"Charles Alfred Ballance - The Lister memorial lecture: Delivered in the theatre of the Royal College of Surgeons of England on April 5, 1933, 77 pages, D.C. Thompson (1933)"

So there seems to be some confusion here. Carcharoth (talk) 00:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Gibson and Lister Medal

It is not clear what Lister Medal Thomas Gibson received. That page (linked in previous sentence) says 1987, but it is quite clear that Patrick Forrest received the award in 1987, and gave the Lister Oration lecture the following year. So until more references are available for Gibson, I am leaving this as Forrest. Carcharoth (talk) 03:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Most recent awards

For updated details on the most recent awards, see here and from there the Word document that gives the details of the prizes ("Terms of Reference" near the bottom of that page): Word Document. That names the four most recent recipients as Hopkins, Shumway, Morris and Clarke. Hence there are no missing names between Morris and Clarke. Carcharoth (talk) 03:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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