Talk:List of tallest buildings in Canada/Archive 1

Archive 1

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Because their website is clearly much more NPOV and balanced than Wikipedia is. --Qviri (talk) 01:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

It is in the fact that they have reduced claims of being the tallest structure to being the tallest building. --Kmsiever 20:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, can you name a currently-built free-standing structure taller than the CN Tower? --Qviri (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Petronius Platform is 610 metres in height. --Kmsiever 15:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it supported by buoyancy of the water? --Qviri (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that of the 610 metres, 535 are below sea level; as well, the seabed is 535 metres below sea level. I assume that means the structure is supported by land. --Kmsiever 17:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

CN Tower

The tallest free-standing structure in the world, not tallest building by a longshot. --C civiero 00:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Buildings under construction

Unless you have a source that a particular building under construction has achieved a height that would give it a spot on this list, do not add buildings under construction. An excavation does not qualify as one of Canada's tallest buildings! A.Roz (talk) 02:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, the list could be expanded to 30-50 if anyone has the energy. A.Roz (talk) 02:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Pacific Building/Sun Tower

If you know any history about the Canadian Pacific Building and/or the Sun Tower please see the discussion at Talk:Canadian Pacific Building#Height. - 117Avenue (talk) 03:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Comparing apples to apples

Number 5 on the list should actually be number 11 as it is only 653' to its roof. Most other buildings, including 1st Canadian Place in Toronto, do not include the height of an antenna in their measurement. If it was more of a spire integrated into the massing, it could be debatable. In this example it is not much of a debate as it is strictly an antenna on top of the building.

There is no debate. The fact that you consider it to be an antenna rather than a spire is a moot point. The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat considers it to be a spire and thus part of its official height. Sorry, but I think their opinion weighs a little bit more since they are the definitive source worldwide, rather than the opinion of our supposed resident expert here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vejet (talk • contribs) 16:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Problem

At the begining of the history timeline we have a conflict. The Trader's Bank Building was suposedly eclipsed by the Dominion Building. But the artilces say that Trader's Bank was 198 ft tall, and the Dominion was only 175 ft. Also the article for the Dominion was it was the tallest commerical building in the Empire, so does that mean something else was taller? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 20:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Under construction

Currently the list includes Buildings under-construction but nearly topped off . This seems odd to me. Who is to determine what is "nearly topped off" ? It seems it should either be "Are topped off", or plain "under construction". UrbanNerd (talk) 19:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This has been corrected, only buildings completely topped off are included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vejet (talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to change the wording to "under construction". Unless someone is directly involved in the construction process it would be very hard to prove what buildings have been topped off and which are still under construction. I don't think The Bow, Absolute World, Trump Tower, or Eighth Avenue Place have been topped off yet, but they are all close. It makes more sense to just list ones under construction, or not at all. UrbanNerd (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Also if buildings under construction are included on the list, Toronto Trump Tower should be added. UrbanNerd (talk) 21:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Units for height

Given Canada's use of the metric system, shouldn't the buildings heights have metres listed first? I definitely think of the buildings on the list in metres. The Toronto list has both with a / A.Roz (talk) 14:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I second this. I came to this talk page specifically to see if this had been discussed. The Wikipedia guidelines at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Which_units_to_use_and_how_to_present_them seem to indicate fairly clearly that SI (metric) units should be primary, based on the usage of SI in Canada, and the units used by the sources (Skyscraperpage: SI, Emporis: SI, CTBUH: both). Any other opinions? Jruppell (talk) 14:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Of course the heights should be in metres (with feet optional). Canada officially adopted metric measurements in the 1970s. The only significant country still using feet/inches is the USA. These traditional measurement units would be appropriate for US articles, with metric units provided for non-US readers. Torontonian1 (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

And, of course, the qualifying height should be in metres; 150 m (492 ft) would make sense. Torontonian1 (talk) 14:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well. Epigrammed (talk) 17:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Peace Tower

The peace tower has been removed from the historical list citing that it is not a "building". I beg to differ. Unlike Old City Hall (Toronto) or St. James Cathedral the peace tower has floors with rooms, chambers, and galleries all the way up. It is not just a shell or a tower, it is a multi-level building. It's not much different than Sun Tower which is on the list. I'm not that concerned whether it is listed or not, but until it can be determined i have restored the longstanding with it on. UrbanNerd (talk) 06:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

The longstanding was to not include it. When you argued this in September, I removed the list completely because I felt that if towers were to be included, there must be others missing as well. Please provide references, similar to the ones already used on this page, that list Peace Tower as a building with an official height. Thank-you. 117Avenue (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Towers

Could User:A.Roz please explain why towers are not included on this page? I think I know why, but I don't know the details. 117Avenue (talk) 01:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Should Victoria Tower (Canada) not also be included? How do we know that there aren't other buildings missing from the Tallest building history section? To me the entire section seems like original research, which should be avoided. 117Avenue (talk) 06:13, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

History of tallest buildings...

Why were several subjects in the history of tallest buildings section removed? Chadillaccc (talk) 06:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Basically User:117Avenue didn't like the list and decided to delete the buildings he didn't approve of. I guess he owns the article. UrbanNerd (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I ended the history section at 140m, and the city section at 80m, because there was no way to determine if the ones below that were correct or not. See Towers and Peace Tower above. I also removed unreferenced entries in the province list, and completion dates for buildings under construction, as this is a WP:CRYSTAL violation. 117Avenue (talk) 04:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The history section doesn't require a height limit. As long as it is a high-rise over 35 meters it is relevant to this page; a compilation of lists about skyscrapers/high-rises in Canada. Chadillaccc (talk) 23:22, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to say there is a height limit, but that at some point it gets difficult to verify the entires. 117Avenue (talk) 02:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Units

Most of the sources use metres. Should metres be presented first? This being metric Canada. 117Avenue (talk) 02:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Limit

I don't think that this list needs to be limited to a certain number of entries. 51 puts the cutoff at 535 feet, an arbitrary number. This is an online encyclopedia, a page can be made larger as long as the entries are notable. 500 feet is a good round number to cut the list off at. Articles exist for buildings beyond that, the list could even be expanded. 117Avenue (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Njaohnt (talk) 01:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of tallest bridges in the world which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:16, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Toronto Old City Hall

According to this article Old City Hall was the tallest building in Canada from 1899 until 1917. Dalek Monty (talk) 19:41, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible missing building (Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception)

Not entirely sure about the timeline on this, but the 230 ft. spire of the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Saint John was completed in 1871, which (according to this list) would make it the tallest building from 1871 to 1874. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.251.40.130 (talk) 22:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Proposal, split list in two

As the list stands right now, the top three buildings are not even completed. I'm proposing we split the list in a similar way to List of tallest buildings in Vancouver into "Tallest buildings" and "Tallest proposed and under construction" to avoid filling the list with buildings that may never even get off the ground. WanukeX (talk) 20:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)