Talk:List of storms in the 2006 Pacific hurricane season/October

October

Week 1

"97C"

Not officially on NRL, so no official "INVEST" designation, but SSD has started Satellite Fixes on 97C (which has been appearing in TWOCPs recently). – Chacor 15:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

15E.Norman

90E.INVEST

And another Invest is up. Seems like the EPac is getting active again. -- WmE 16:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Considering it is late in the season, that is a sure sign of an El Nino. CrazyC83 19:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

NHC: THIS SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY LIMITED. HOWEVER... UPPER-LEVEL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR A FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM FROM THIS SYSTEM DURING NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. - グリフオーザー 01:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget to include the coordinates: 10.3N 114.7W -- RattleMan 07:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

TCFA. – Chacor 10:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[1]. This looks beautiful.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia

90E sure looks like a tropical depression to me. The other one's close but this one looks like it needs a number. [2]. Fujiwara anyone? -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 00:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Fifteen-E

TD15E on NRL. -- RattleMan 03:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Now TD15-E officially. CrazyC83 03:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I'm just psychic ;). -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 05:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Norman

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER EAST PACIFIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL STORM FIFTEEN (EP152006) ON 20061009 1200 UTC 

– Chacor 14:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

And indeed, we have Norman. At 40 knots, too. – Chacor 14:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, what's up Nor! Howya doin'? Long time no see. I'm goin' to Baja this weekend, how about you? Water too cold? Wind shear too high? I'm sorry about that. I guess you can't crash any parties over there. Too bad. See ya! -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 18:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

And.... gone. Jamie|C 12:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert issued on the system that absorbed ex-Norman. – Chacor 08:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

If it regenerates from absorption, how it would be handled? As Norman, or as 17-E? juan andrés 18:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

It would be 17-E, same thing that happened from TD 10 in the Atlantic last year when TD 12 abosrbed the remnants of it. 24.85.160.56 18:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't think so. If they were to give it a new designation they would probably have declared a new INVEST. Even the TCFA was issued under Norman's number (15). – Chacor 02:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The key here is that the new system is consolidating around the remnant low-level circulation of Norman. Norman's LLCC = Norman's name and number. – Chacor 07:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Norman (regen.)

If the 06Z models are to be believed, we have TD Norman at 2 a.m. PDT. – Chacor 07:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Confirmed by NHC. – Chacor 08:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical storm warnings are out; headed for the coast. Hopefully it doesn't strengthen too much. bob rulz 09:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Very, very deep convection, with good banding. I don't think this is just a 30-kt depression... [3] – Chacor 10:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks way too good to be just a TD. I know its not a Cat 1, but it sure looks like one. 92L in the Atlantic also looks pretty good on that image. guitarhero777777 15:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree I think Norman is now a TS again. CrazyC83 16:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Gone.(91E merged with Norman so its gone too).Mitchazenia 2006 12:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No, 91E was near 140W. This was off the coast of Mexico. That's ridiculous. – Chacor 12:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The NHC wrote that the system would absorb Olivia and Norman.Mitchazenia V3.0 13:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Neither of which were 91E, which was about 2300 miles away. – Chacor 14:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I think we are getting the remnants of Norman here. The rain has been nonstop and the roads outside my house are flooded. Good kitty 16:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Where do you live? bob rulz 23:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

In Mexico, I guess. RaNdOm26 07:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Seems to me that if the remnants of Olivia merged with the remnants of Norman, and the combined remnants become a tropical depression that it should be called Tropical Depression 17-E. Reub2000 11:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The low-level circulation centre was Norman. That was the key factor.

ALTHOUGH THE CYCLONE IS A COMBINATION
OF THE REMNANT OF NORMAN AND ANOTHER LOW...THERE IS ENOUGH
CONTINUITY ON THE TRACK OF THE CENTER OF NORMAN'S REMNANTS TO
JUSTIFY CALLING THIS SYSTEM TROPICAL DEPRESSION NORMAN ONCE AGAIN.

– Chacor 11:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

16E.Olivia

99E.INVEST

99E at 10.5N 121W. -- RattleMan 00:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD NEAR 10 MPH. - グリフオーザー 04:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking really promising. Lots of very deep convection near the center. -- WmE 14:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

“

A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA IS LOCATED ABOUT 1250 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA.  THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS IT
MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD NEAR 10 MPH.

”

SHIPS 12Z does not make it a hurricane, but develops it into quite a strong tropical storm. For some reason LBAR suddenly pushes the centre inland towards Mexico (130.1W at 72hr, 123.8W at 96, and inland Mexico at 120hr) – Chacor 14:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

This looks close to tropical depression status. bob rulz 18:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

If it isn't already there. No signs of 15E.NONAME though... CrazyC83 19:43, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

FNMOC has a TCFA on it. --Ajm⁸¹ 04:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

That's an outdated one from August. – Chacor 04:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

16E.NONAME

(unofficial) 16E.NONAME appears on the NRL website. - グリフオーザー 20:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah just saw it too. Conditions are bad, let's see if it can become Olivia. -- WmE 20:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Sixteen-E

NHC confirms that we have TD 16-E. -- WmE 20:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tracker supports Tropical Storm status throughout the five day outlook. - グリフオーザー 21:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Barely though. Olivia (assuming it reaches such) will have a tough time... CrazyC83 01:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

16 is proving to be a bad number in the East Pacific basin. Since 2000, three years (02, 04, and 05) out of five had Tropical Depression 16-Es that never reached storm status. Jake52 My talk 13:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

16E.OLIVIA

Olivia and 40kts according to the NRL and model runs:

TROPICAL STORM     OLIVIA (EP162006) ON 20061010  1200 UTC

--Ajm⁸¹ 13:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Olivia

Confirmed.~ HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 19:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC) ~

What is happening here [4]? It would be weird if it crossed into the Gulf. Good kitty 17:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

It be the first crossover since 1996.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 17:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Last advisory from NHC - degenerating into a remnant low. --Coredesat 22:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the remnants of Olivia and Norman are interacting with each other. 24.85.160.56

Week 2

04C.NONAME

97C.INVEST

On NRL now. 11.0N 162.5W. --Ajm⁸¹ 20:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is the same system, actually. The last SSD fix was 12.3N 167.3W. --Coredesat (talk) 20:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Moved it down since it probably isn't the same one. --Ajm⁸¹ 20:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

TCFA 670 NM SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF HONOLULU, HAWAII - グリフオーザー 13:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

First time we've hit 4C since 1997 i believe-if it becomes 4C that is.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 14:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

It isn't a number yet, but it's pretty close. It looks very impressive on the satellite. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 18:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The 12Z run of the GFDL is very interesting - It develops and starts heading west, but flies north then east, heading directly for Hawaii as a 106kt Cat 3! -- RattleMan 21:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

More intresting- The East/Central Pacific is bubbling in activity again.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 23:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Cyclone Formation Alert was cancelled do to weakening any further development will be slow. - グリフオーザー 17:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Deja vu in the Central Pacific. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 21:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks to be trying to come back to life now. This still bears watching, as the models still develop it and threaten a Hawaii landfall. bob rulz 20:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

04C.NONAME

NRL has 04C.NONAME. --Ajm⁸¹ 19:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Four-C

Official now. --Ajm⁸¹ 21:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it won't develop in a tropical storm either. The call for dissipation within 48 hours. -- WmE 21:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not easy for CPac systems to form. It has a chance though. CrazyC83 21:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Strengthen or not, still the first time since 1997 we've had a 4C.Mitchazenia 2006 22:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Gone juan andrés 18:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

91E.INVEST

New invest up at about 12.1N 139.5W. --Ajm⁸¹ 01:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Can't see it being an Invest much longer; I think we might have 17-E this evening. CrazyC83 21:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

If it becomes Paul, it will be the most active season since 2003 with Patricia.Mitchazenia 2006 22:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

And we have a problem, this may become 5-C instead of 17-E as it is very close to the 140.0W line for the Central Pacific.Mitchazenia 2006 22:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It's gone from FNMOC page. But if it was very probable to form, why it dissipated? Take a look. juan andrés 02:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Week 3

98C.INVEST

4N 178W - グリフオーザー 02:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

4N? Seems kinda close to the equator for that area. It doesn't have much time to develop in the CPAC. →Cyclone1→ 15:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Au contraire. It's moving ENE. Plenty of time for development in the CPac. – Chacor 15:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[5][6] Models have it heading north and turning west in 48 hours. --Ajm⁸¹ 15:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Interestingly, recent TWOCPs have the system drifting slowly east, and most recently slowly southwards. – Chacor 05:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Gone. -- RattleMan 07:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

17E.Paul

92E.INVEST

14.9N 96.6W. --Ajm⁸¹ 13:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

It's the one with the Special Tropical Disturbance Statement out on it. – Chacor 13:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

TCFA issued. -- RattleMan 21:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice. Be (my dad's name) Paul-that is if it strengthens.Mitchazenia V3.0 22:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

17E.NONAME

On NRL and models. --Ajm⁸¹ 07:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Seventeen-E

NHC confirms. --Ajm⁸¹ 08:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

17E.PAUL

Models initialise at 35 kt. NRL agrees. – Chacor 13:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Paul

NHC confirms. They predict it to become a hurricane before hitting northwestern Mexico. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but how strong is the question. It's almost in the same position as a certain other storm, at about the same time. But, I don't see it getting nearly that strong. →Cyclone1→ 14:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, then again, I take that back, no it isn't. But it was the same time. →Cyclone1→ 14:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

65 mph winds at 2:00 PST.Mitchazenia V3.0 20:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it's going to be a long time before it hits Mexico, because it still looks like it isn't getting much closer to land. Although the forecasts steer it towards land, it's still only a tropical storm, but probably will strengthen soon. Some forecasts predict it's going to affect the Baja California Peninsula. Keep in mind that two hurricanes, John and Lane, have already affected that area, and if Paul hits Mexico, that would be 3 hurricanes in a row that affected the same area of land, quite rare especially in the East Pacific. AstroHurricane001 21:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Tough call, since it is highly prone to steering currents. A slight change can turn it to sea. CrazyC83 21:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it has an eye from IR image on NRL. Reub2000 23:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Paul

Models initialized at 75 70 kts. --Ajm⁸¹ 00:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Now quickly up to a Category 2. Chance of becoming a major hurricane. Maybe an article should be made soon? CrazyC83 14:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

No info, no article. It's simple, really. We can prepare one, but at this stage I haven't seen a single news article on specific preparations for Paul. – Chacor 14:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yea, unless lots of preparations are made, we should probably wait for the damage reports, or unless it gets unexpectedly strong. Someone on another board drew a comparison to Hurricane Kenna, which is certainly possible. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, should we get a sandbox together so it won't take a long time later on? Hurricanehink (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

95 kt. Forecast calls for a MH. – Chacor 14:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

That would surpass NOAA's May 22 forecast with 6 E.Pacific MH (Bud,Daniel, Ileana, John & Lane and probably Paul).Mitchazenia V3.0 16:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

The eye has collapsed and it looks like Paul may have peaked. bob rulz 21:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Or maybe its simply a major eyewall replacement cycle for Paul or simply due to absorbing some cool water. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 23:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Shear according to the disco. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Really? cuz I thought it was an ERC (eyewall replacement cycle) since Paul's once tiny eye had dissapeared. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 23:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yea, the eye disappeared because of the shear. The discussions provide good information, and should be read before making any conclusions about the storm. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Well Mexico could then be spared from Paul's worst, I was kind-a afriad if Paul would be a re-run on Mexico but since the NHC forecasters still sees Paul hitting Mexico in 2 days, it might be a TS at the time, according to the 3-day forecast. And also, thanx for the answer. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 00:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's some info on preps in Mexico. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Just so everyone knows, I'm working on a Paul article in my sandbox, which I will publish once the last advisory is written. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Could an admin move User:Hurricanehink/Sandbox to Hurricane Paul (2006)? Could you also only move the main page? (not the talk page- that has stuff in it) Thanks. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Paul is significantly weakening, and should dissipate (or so they say) over the mountains of Mexico soon. However, its remnant low could still bring heavy rain over parts of Mexico and Texas. It might also merge with a low near Colorado and New Mexico, with the low near Montana and Alberta, and possibly with the system over Alaska, and the Nor'Easter over Newfoundland. The remnant low could eventually track over the Great Lakes, dumping rain and snow, and possibly becoming a strong Nor'Easter over Newfoundland. I realize that this prediction goes almost a week into the future, and that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. So other than that, I think Paul is pretty much done for now, as it is weakening over the mountains of Mexico. AstroHurricane001 21:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Is that a forecast from a weather bureau? If not, it shouldn't be here. --Coredesat 23:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I doubt that but it could still be a possibility, just as an opinion. Also, I think Paul must have already made landfall in Mexico already. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 01:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Could Paul have made landfall and retreated back over water? Those are usually the worst type of storms in the Pacific due to the mountainous terrain. CrazyC83 02:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Who knows but the NRL infared and water vapor images show all of its circulation over Mexico. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 05:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

And also, I don't know if Paul deserved an article because it acted like the "big onne" in the first two days of its life until out of a clear blue sky, it fell down to shreads shreaded by wing shreaders. But if Hink manages to make a decent, or standard aricle, that would be good to by expanding the wiki. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 06:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any Paul[7]. Maybe it's been absorbed into the low over the north. It actually looks like a cold front. Meanwhile, there still seems to be many areas of possible cyclone development on that map. AstroHurricane001 12:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Week 4

18E.NONAME

93E.INVEST

Navy site now has a 93E located near 15.9N 102.3W. --Coredesat 19:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice. Could be a 18E unless that shear kills 93E like what happened to Paul. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 02:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking like 18E soon...the NHC has put out a note on the marine graphic. CrazyC83 02:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

A pair of curious questions:

• When was the last time we had an 18-E (if 18-E developes, of course)? I see this invest has a well developed cyclonic form, but it'll have the disadvantage of being near Mexican coast, however 93-E could be a big menace for Mexico.
• When will this season end? (this is not the real question) It's being turning out like 1997. The real question is, what kind of El Niño is really forming? Because I actually live in Baja California peninsula, so maybe a long and hard winter awaits for me, or better said, for us. juan andrés 03:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

2000 had 19 storms total, which is the most recent example of 18+ (excluding CPAC). The season will probably end some time in November, mainly due to increasing upper level winds. IMHO Paul is probably the last storm to threaten northwestern Mexico. It can't be ruled out for a southern Mexico strike, as seen with Rosa (00) or Rick (97). El Nino is probably forming, and as of now no one knows how strong it is going to get. You never know, the El Nino could suddenly abate once December starts, or it could continue to intensify. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It's a really tiny storm. Good kitty 04:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually the El Nino conditions have made it much more favoritable for EPac storms, but the problem is wind shear which killed Paul and several previous INVESTs within the last month. But without the El Nino, this uear could have been possibly one of the 10 top most inactive EPac hurricane season in the records. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 05:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Please avoid "what-if" speculation. – Chacor 13:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops... my apologizies. Its just that in science class I was studying about predictions and hypothesis that got me nuts. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 19:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

18E.NONAME

TD18-E on NRL! -- RattleMan 13:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Eighteen-E

Le confirmed.<font color="green">Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 15:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

From this[8], it looks like Paul is starting to dissapate and 18E is gaining strength. We could see a tropical storm Rosa soon if it does develop. AstroHurricane001 17:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The NHC says no Hurricane Rosa is in sight.<font color="green">Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 17:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

But with a possibility of a tropical storm Rosa with 50 kt winds. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 19:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

60 knots (70 mph) not 50 knots (60 mph).<font color="green">Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 19:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I kind of hope this one doesn't make it to Rosa. I don't want to have to find a new image. Heh. Good kitty 16:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Then this should help. The NHC isn't expecting Rosa anymore.<font color=green>Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 18:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

99C.INVEST

[9] First time I've seen white on the CPac satellite. Near 8.6N 154W. – Chacor 13:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That's pretty close to the equator, for such an intense storm. If it does strengthen, it could become a strong typhoon like Ioke. Hopefully it weakens before it makes it to the West Pacific. Since it's moving west with a band of storms, we might have to watch this one for the next couple of days. AstroHurricane001 17:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

No it ain't-Ivan did better than that.<font color="green">Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 17:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ekeka did even better. All positions below 11°N, Category 3, and in January and February. Based on that precedent, it is possible that this could become a system even at that latitude. Late season seems to be a popular time for systems to form in the Central Pacific. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 18:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Depending on wheter its going to strength all depends on the amount of wind shear cuz three depressions with one hat was forecasted to be a re-run of Ioke all died due to wind shearing. — Alastor Moody _{(T + C + U)} 19:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

CPHC: An area of disturbed weather is located about 775 miles south of Hilo, Hawaii. An elongated, low pressure area has formed within this area. This system appears to be nearly stationary. There is a slight chance for some slow development within this area during the next couple of days. <font color=green>Mitchazenia V4.0</font> 22:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

There's still a lot of convection left[10], although I'm not sure whether it's strengthening or weakening. AstroHurricane001 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Quite a low latitude to develop at... CrazyC83 03:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Gone. --Ajm⁸¹ 18:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Week 5

90C.INVEST

7.0N 175.0W --Ajm⁸¹ 18:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Gone from NRL. --Ajm⁸¹ 00:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It crossed the dateline and is now 90W. —Cuiviénen 20:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)