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This is the beginning of an effort to declutter the main article. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTDIRECTORY

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There has been a question as to whether this article might run afoul that guidance. A quick look shows that it does not.

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A look at the article shows that none of these apply to this article. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is now an AFD running about this list-article, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of state parties of the Democratic Party (United States), which takes precedence over any discussion here, I think continued discussion should be there, not here. Unless/until the AFD is closed. But offhand, this list-article could be improved by providing some information about each state party, not just linking to them. Could be in tabular format. But again, i suggest discussion at the AFD for now. --doncram 19:35, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

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Democratic Party
ChairpersonDebbie Wasserman Schultz (FL)
SecretaryStephanie Rawlings-Blake (MD)
President of the United StatesBarack Obama (IL)[1]
Vice President of the United StatesJoe Biden (DE)[1]
Senate leaderHarry Reid (Minority Leader) (NV)
House leaderNancy Pelosi (Minority Leader) (CA)
FounderAndrew Jackson
Founded1828
Preceded byDemocratic-Republican Party
Headquarters430 South Capitol St. SE,
Washington, D.C., 20003
Student wingCollege Democrats of America
Youth wingYoung Democrats of America
Women's wingNational Federation of Democratic Women
Overseas wingDemocrats Abroad
Membership (2012)43.1 million[2]
IdeologyLiberalism[3][4]
Progressivism[5]
Social liberalism[6]
National affiliationDemocratic Party
International affiliationNone
Colors  Blue
Seats in the Senate
44 / 100
Seats in the House
188 / 435
Governorships
18 / 50
State Upper House Seats
832 / 1,972
State Lower House Seats
2,344 / 5,411
Website
www.democrats.org

Infoboxes are to assist the general reader. There is no requirement that infoboxes appear at only one page. Given that the DNC is a committee made up of reps from these state parties it is entirely appropriate to have the infobox here as well. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted again and I just restored it. I don't have strong feelings about it, but keeping it or not should be discussed here. --doncram 07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As I noted in the soon-to-be-closed AfD, I removed the infobox as its use in this context is not compliant with MOS:INFOBOX. WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE says that "the purpose of an infobox [is] to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". Infoboxes are supposed to highlight facts that are (or that should be) in the body an article. Except for a link to the article about the party's overseas wing, none of the information in the infobox is in the article and I can't imagine that it would be even if this list were brought to FL status. This shouldn't come as a surprise as {{Infobox political party}} was designed to be used in an article about a political party, not a list of political parties. I can't conceive of a way that this article could be brought into compliance with the Manual of Style without removing the infobox. Graham (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for explaining your reasoning, and yes I agree. Could a copy of the infobox be placed here just for reference as to its fields, which suggest possible columns for the table. I can't copy it conveniently from where I am editing. Also I am sort of appalled to see, in edit mode, that the infobox is hard-coded here...it is not a displayed live copy of an infobox at the national level article (so it does not automatically update). More reason to remove it. Thanks! --doncram 23:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing, I've placed a copy of the infobox above. Graham (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b "Democrats.org". Democrats.org.
  2. ^ Samuel Kernell; Gary C. Jacobson; Thad Kousser. "Background of Political Parties in the United States". ProCon.org. Retrieved November 9, 2012. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |last-author-amp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ Arnold, N. Scott (2009). Imposing values: an essay on liberalism and regulation. Florence: Oxford University Press. p. 3. ISBN 0-495-50112-3. Modern liberalism occupies the left-of-center in the traditional political spectrum and is represented by the Democratic Party in the United States.
  4. ^ "President Obama, the Democratic Party, and Socialism: A Political Science Perspective". The Huffington Post. 2012-06-29. Retrieved 2015-01-09.
  5. ^ "The Left's Quiet Advance in Democratic Primaries". theatlantic.com. 2013-06-19. Retrieved 2014-06-22.
  6. ^ Paul Starr. "Center-Left Liberalism". princeton.edu. Retrieved 2014-06-09.
  7. ^ "Montana's Steve Bullock to lead Democratic governors - OnPolitics". OnPolitics. Retrieved January 19, 2015.

Table

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In these edits I began tabulating some info. What data columns and types of notes should be included? I started with two measures of state party strength within their state, the fractions of upper house & lower house seats held, which is available for many/most states. I entered info from corresponding state party pages through Delaware or so. Please help fill this out! --doncram 07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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