Talk:List of settlements in Gloucestershire by population
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Kingswood and the Bristol urban area - explanatory notes
[edit]Kingswood is a relatively diverse area to collate population figures on. It's unparished yet the Ordnance Survey highlight it as the most recognisable area east of Bristol. According to the Bristol Post, its local area consists of council wards Kings Chase, Woodstock and Parkwall[1] but the prior borough covered nearly the area of the current constituency.
Local areas covered including that unparished area are Mangotsfield/Emerson Green parish, Siston parish, Bitton parish, Oldland parish, Hanham and Hanham Abbot parishes. Communities/suburbs under these parishes are Blackhorse, Soundwell, New Cheltenham, Warmley Hill, Woodstock, Cadbury Heath, Bridgeygate etc which do not have defined borders so to list them in the table individually would be difficult.
The constituency also covers villages which are some distance from the main built up area, such as Bitton, Siston, Swineford and Upton Cheyney.
There is some ribbon development to most of these linking them. Their small sizes mean there is minimal impact on the main built-up area population.
The constituency also does not include Frenchay, Downend including Bromley Heath, or Staple Hill - Frenchay being a small community around 2000 residents (number derived from ONS low level statistics) so it will not be listed in the table separately.
Due to covering most of the areas east of Bristol and for simplicity I have used it to cover the population for the purposes of this article - the population is normally covered under the Greater Bristol built up area tally but there is no suburb breakdown and this article is specific to Gloucestershire areas only.
References
- ^ "Is Kingswood in Bristol or South Gloucestershire?". www.bristolpost.co.uk.
- The Equalizer (talk) 05:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Settlements are unmentioned
[edit]I believe this list is incomplete. Many settlements are unmentioned within gloucestershire. (Unsigned comment as of 20:06, 20 July 2021 by User:95.144.157.127 (talk))
- That is by design and for simplicity - with this 'list of settlements' measure, the main clusters of built environment throughout the county are identified, with the most prominent suburb(s) used to label each by the OS. There is a link to a further article which explains the methodology, and subdivisions are determined by gaps within the urban area. It's not using local authority boundaries or even attempting to list all suburbs. Neither is it using any/all parish names or the largest suburbs necessarily. In some of the other county lists I have added a further column listing suburbs for each settlement to give some insight to the areas. The Equalizer (talk) 03:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Right. Large settlements Newent, Churchdown, Brockworth and Cam are all missing from this list and all exceed 5,000 Disturb995 (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- All of them are independent and aren't suburbs. Disturb995 (talk) 15:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- As I state above, this list is about built up areas, it isn't generally measuring rural populations (unless it's too small) - see the built-up areas link in the article.
- Newent - parish has 5,207 residents, the village urban population of which is 4,322 so didn't make the list
- Churchdown is considered a suburb of Innsworth and included in that figure
- Brockworth is within Gloucester
- Cam is within Dursley.
- Hope this helps.
- The Equalizer (talk) 21:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- As I state above, this list is about built up areas, it isn't generally measuring rural populations (unless it's too small) - see the built-up areas link in the article.
Thankyou. My fault. This is the same user who posted the original message but I now have an account. I got Newent wrong, I was looking at the parish population. Yes I did actually know that the population was including those places like Cam and Dursley together. I suppose this is the parliamentary count but honestly I've been to Cam and it has its own Council and is considered a separate village by locals. Disturb995 (talk) 16:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm sure that's similar with places like Brockworth and Churchdown. Disturb995 (talk) 16:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Brockworth is sometimes considered a part of Gloucester but I always believed it was its own community outside Gloucester so it could be a suburb I suppose. Disturb995 (talk) 16:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
I understand what built up areas are so basically including Cam and Dursley Parish together. Disturb995 (talk) 16:54, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
And simplicity makes it better actually I agree with that. Disturb995 (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)