Talk:List of protests in the United Kingdom

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This desperately needs updating

I am not entirely proficient at this but this list is woefully out of date, despite including some very recent marches. I like this idea, and I think the page is important but it needs updating. I note that the anti-Trump march of 2018 is not included and there were an estimated 250,000 atendees on that one (at least according to organisers: https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-visit-london-protesters-stage-one-of-uks-biggest-rallies-in-years-11436281). Also, the anti-lockdown rallies were gathering in excess of 150,000 on several occassions - with one particular march having an estimated 1 million atendees (https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/london-protests-live-thousands-anti-20910139) 193.38.2.81 (talk) 09:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Scope

What is the proposed scope of this article - all UK protest for all time is a pretty big remit! Should you limit the focus to 20th/21st Century, or protest of a particular type, or are you intending to produce a summary of all protest and link out. Are you including riots? are you only focusing on protests that significantly changed social expectations or laws or any significant protest? I don't personally have time or knowledge to do work on this one - even the UK road protest article was an ambitious title and the article and it still needs lots more work going back before 1950 to include turnpike protests and also needs some updating about current protests. PeterEastern (talk) 16:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know it is a big task which is why I've started it here. I guess it will be mostly modern in its scope as we already have article for modern protests. Riots will probably be worthy for inclusion as they often start off as a protest about something. It would be good to have some historical background to previous protests - it will no way be inclusive of all (partly as the articles don't exist). A major aim is to provide a general overview of what laws are involved in protesting (so the fact that they have to be planned and authorised by the police etc.) and any general themes that exist between protests. I don't have much time either but hopefully if a few of us all do a bit we can create something to link a lot of other articles together. I don't intend to create a perfect article before releasing it to main space either - it will be a WP:WIP for a long time.... Smartse (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've put together an outline, it's just an internal link farm at the moment, with a scattering of pictures. Riots can be included so long as they began explicitly as protests - outbreaks of violence due to general tension don't count as protests though. I'm surprised at the generally scant coverage of UK protests already in Wikipedia. Many events that you could write hundreds of words about are covered in a line. Fences&Windows 21:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My 2d. worth on this is that if you are focussing on events in the United Kingdom, with the 'creation' point of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland being the passing of the Act of Union 1800, itself being the passing of two acts in that year (on 2 July 1800 and 1 August 1800) the proposed article/overview/main-article-list need not concern itself with events prior to that year. Events prior to that year could/should be covered in other similarly titled articles concerning themselves with the individual countries/principality with their respective end points being the '1800 Act of Union'. Thanks. 163.1.147.64 (talk) 17:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC) (the editor formerly known as Alf)[reply]

Links

Links to some books: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Fences&Windows 23:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An approach...

One approach to actually getting content into this article would, in essence, be summarising the many articles that are listed here in a coherent way. This article would essentially become a large overview, from which the other articles would be more detailed "spin-outs". If that's the case, writing direct from fresh sources would not be necessary to get some work done - at least in the first instance. So my suggestion is a bit of a summary of existing material topped up by some more specific sources and discussions. If this approach is acceptable, I'll take a stab at implementing it over the next two weeks. Any thoughts? Fritzpoll (talk) 09:34, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That was my thinking too, I just hadn't got around to it. A little summary about each time period or type of protest, then short summaries of the linked pages. Fences&Windows 23:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the structure might need a bit of tweaking - I think we should be either chronological or grouped by cause, but not both. Is there some compelling reason for having both that I've obviously not thought of? Fritzpoll (talk) 08:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I figured that a separation by time period would work as it'll give a brief overview of the different types and targets of protest down the centuries, and combat recentism. I'm not wedded to it though. Fences&Windows 00:24, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - it is a tricky puzzle. I think we should do it chronologically as the main headers and then subdivide within each time period as necessary. If that's agreeable, I'll proceed Fritzpoll (talk) 08:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that subdivision by topic was the primary division, but go ahead. Fences&Windows 22:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On reflection, that does make more sense. I have some more fundamentals to do this evening (establishing a couple of bots to assist content creation), but I'll begin work on this tomorrow afternoon. Fritzpoll (talk) 08:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portal?

Does this look like a list of things to fill out a portal with to anyone else? Shoemaker's Holiday ^{Over 209 FCs served} 22:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did notice the resemblance to an Outline when I put it together. I never look at or use Portals, what are they for? Fences&Windows 00:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They're basically a means to link to the other articles within a topic in an organised way. It's an interesting idea...(ponders) Fritzpoll (talk) 07:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List?

Great idea for an article... but I've taken a quick look and it might be better as a List of major protests in the United Kingdom... Pretzels^Talk! 13:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I started the article off originally because the protest page is useless, basically just being a list. My aim in this article was not to describe and list every single protest that we have an article about but to cover the whole area of protest and relevant areas in one article. I guess that we could have a list too but ideally I'd like to see a proper article too. Smartse (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be happy, as a first step, for us to use my proposal above to start expanding the article? I'm just keep umming and ahhing over the structure of the article so haven't yet started. Fritzpoll (talk) 08:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to keep it as a list and finally move it live after languishing in the incubator and then my user space for so long. Someone with the energy and sources can create a proper Protest in the United Kingdom article. Fences&Windows 22:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]