Talk:List of paintings by Caravaggio

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Collezione Longhi

Can anyone give information about this? Several Caravaggio paintings are cited as being in it, but there's no article/entry on Wiki, and nothing even on the Web - just a reference to a Robert Longhi Insitution (which seems not to be open to the public) and odd references to TWO Robert Longhi colections (or 'collezione Robert Longhi), one in Rome, one in Florence. Can anyone clear this up and maybe write a short wiki-entry? PiCo 10:16, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

can't help but i too have a question. there are four caravaggios in the Met NY. Only three are listed. which one is missing ? Palx 23:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the Met bought a Duccio Madonna and Child for $45 million. It measures 8x11 inches - 88 square inches, half a million dollars a square inch. Must be the most expensive real estate in New York. The Met's website lists only the Musicians and Denial of Peter. Their Luteplayer was only authenticated fairly recently and perhaps they haven't updated the web page. What's your source for saying they have four? PiCo 01:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was there last month and saw four. Denial of St. Peter, Lute player, Musicians but cannot remember the name of the other one. I am definitely not mistaken and my friend took photos. Four genuine. Not Caravaggisti or copies. Unfortunately my companion hasn't bothered to get the pics developed yet. It's true the Met website lists only three but their records seem to be difficult to navigate. The guy at the museum reception couldn't find any Caravaggios listed at all ! can anybody help ? Palx 08:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is The Holy Family with Saint John the Baptist. Just saw it again . They loaned it to Amsterdam for the exhibition. It's not listed in the chronology. there are 4 in New York.

Does it show the Virgin in a red robe, seated on a bench, with an infant Christ standing with arms around her neck, Joseph behind to the left, and an infant Baptist reaching up from ther lower left corner? Puglisi lists this as a Holy Family, and I can't find anything closer. She says it's known in 3 versions, none thought to be original, with the best version in a private collection in Caracas. Puglisi's book came out in 1998, so things could have changed. Robb doesn't mention anything like this. PiCo 23:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's the one !!!!!!!!
I knew there were four .
there's a photo on the Amsterdam exhibition site.
Both the Met and the Van Gogh museums say it's a Caravaggio. Palx 12:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC) here it is http://www.phespirit.info/pictures/caravaggio/p069.htm Palx 13:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

May I just add that I was at the Met on Sept. 17, 2010. The docent said that "The Musicians" (jokingly known as "Lutes and Fruits") is still on loan to Rome for the exhibition to recognize the 400th year of Caravaggio's death. "Lute Player" was there as was their "Denial of St. Peter." SHE said "The Holy Family" is on loan from a NY private collection. It does not belong to the Met. A book I have by Alessandro Guasti and Francesca Neri verifies this. So the Met really only owns 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.226.46 (talk) 22:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John the Baptist

I've placed all the St John the baptist in the Wilderness paintings (8 of them) together on one page and made a new entry for them. This means that each separate link John the Baptist now takes the reader to the same page, where they con compare the versions of this almost obsessive theme of Caravaggio's. I've tried to incorporate the material from existing entries of course. The page isn't quite finished - I want to add a few paintings which are ascribed to Caravaggio, including the Basle Baptist, and there are some details to clean up. But I'd be glad to have feedback on how you feel about the idea in itself, and also about how I've approached it. There's a danger, of course, since I tend to write in a rather subjective way, that I'm imposing my own readings too much.

Thanks everyone :) PiCo 01:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

1 to go

Wow, I was the one who added "The Calling of Saints Peter and Andrew". Now it seems there's only one Caravaggio work in the world that needs an article! How humiliating is it to be defeated by "Still Life with Fruit on a Stone Ledge"? I mean, I like fruit, but come on...! Lampman 01:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lost me there friend. PalX 12:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, everyone! There are a few errors if the otherwise very well organized and meticulous list. I will correct the errors and cite some sources. I might be able to answer some of the questions asked in the other discussions but one thing at a time. My only bone to pick with the list is that the Museum of Ancient Art in Rome is made up of several different museums, none of which are near each other in the sense that it's not just crossing the street, and I think that they should be distinguished, in case anyone ever wants to go to the museums when in Rome. --KeithatET (talk) 18:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Can you help also on the matter of "possible" Caravaggios? The John the Baptists in particular interest me - I really do wonder just how plausible some of those ascriptions are. (They mostly come from Robb, and I'm mostly responsible). PiCo (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it's me again. After reviewing the list, there are some further 'errors' although I'm sure that they are matters of debate. Some of the works listed as Caravaggio's are actually attributed works. I also corrected the link to the new Cardsharps that was found in December 2007 and purchased by Denis Mahon. It is currently at an exhibition in Trapani, Sicily and will be on loan to the Ashmolean from March 08. I removed the link for that photo/article to the Kimball Cardsharps since apparently there are differences between the two works. I'm going to try to find a photo of the new version - I have a friend who lives in Trapani. Maybe he can get one. I'll also expand the list of attributed Caravaggio's as there are a number of them that should be added. I will also correct the dimensions (in cm) and any other little errors. I'm using John T. Spikes 'Caravaggio' as my main reference as I think that it is the most thorough and accurate. I also added alternate Italian titles where applicable since some of the paintings are sometimes only referred to by those names and might be helpful for people interested/doing research who might think two works exist when there's only one. Otherwise, the list is great! --KeithatET (talk) 19:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I made some more chnages to the chronology. I think that the use of Robb as a source for Caravaggio's work should be used with care. I'm using John T Spike's 2001 Catalogue of the painter's works which seems to me to be very accurate. I've begun adding missing paintings and moving paintings around in the chronology. Some paintings are linked to incorrect images. I unlinked them since it was confusing me which Caravaggio was which. :) I've emailed a few museums to see if they have a digital image they would not mind uploading to wikipedia. Will update over the next few days/weeks. Thanks. --KeithatET (talk) 15:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missing?

Recently attributed, plus another new attribution in Rome of I forget what, plus an early Supper at Emmaus seems to be missing. Johnbod (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! Thanks for the addition. You can add it or I will add it when I can. You seem to be a rather accomplished wikipedian that deals with Art related subjects. Would you want to work with me to get this up to FL status? Remember (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I won't be able to do much, but will keep an eye on it. It's looking good, though some of the more faded images, like the National Gallery Boy with a Lizard, could be upgraded. Johnbod (talk) 13:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know there existed Featured Lists, but it sounds like a nice thing to aim for. Things to add might include ranges of dates for each work based on the 3 most recent authoritative studies, and notes on provenance/attribution - these things could go in the Notes section against each work.PiCo (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this column necessary?

"Techniques" may be a little boring when there's only one exception to Oil On Canvass. PiCo (talk) 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC) agree 199.166.15.245 (talk) 13:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are four exceptions. I was just trying to set up a standard by which all art chronologies could be created but in this case it may not be needed. But I would keep it for not at least. Remember (talk) 14:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To do for FL status

Please place any suggestions you think need to be done to get this up to FL status. Remember (talk) 14:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Create a better lead that is well-sourced
Add more references to chart to support every listing
More explanation on how solid the sourcing for the painting is
Put citations in correct format
Other?

Toothpuller

Pretty sure this should be removed from the list of works, as almost no one actually attributes it to Caravaggio.Heironymous Rowe (talk) 04:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What year is it listed under? Really we need a "no longer attributed" section at the end. Johnbod (talk) 04:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1609 on this list. A no longer attibuted section makes sense.Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flags in Table

The US Flag has been used in the table for the works in the US, correctly in my opinion, and not the various State Flags. Should not the Union Flag be used for the works in the UK - if only for consistency? Jacksoncowes (talk) 18:06, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Medusa - I have seen two version

I have seen two versions of Medusa.

The first was in the Uffizi Gallery in Naples. The other was in the Utrecht Caravaggio and Europe show at the Alte Pinakothek in Munich, Germany two weeks later. The brochure said that it is in a Private Collection and said This work by Caravaggio, which he signed at the bottom right, is thought to be the earlier of two versions. There is only one version in the list.

Yvr-jphart (talk) 01:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"the Uffizi Gallery in Naples" - really? Johnbod (talk) 03:22, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible new addition, once the art historians weigh in

A developing story, so not ready for inclusion, but this story could lead to an addition to Caravaggios oeuvre. He iro 19:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A little more information here in this NY Times article. It was about to be put up for auction as a work by Jusepe de Ribera, but it was withdrawn from the auction and is now being investigated as "a well-documented but long-lost Caravaggio". There is speculation that it could be the Caravaggio piece from the "Ecce Homo" competition with two other painters, Cigoli and Domenico Passignano, that Caravaggio is known to have been involved in. There has always been speculation that the Caravaggio "Ecce Homo" in Genoa was not the Caravaggio work from this competition (and by some that this work was not by Caravaggio at all), and that another was floating around somewhere. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. He iro 20:13, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The incredulity of Saint Thomas

I've seen that both versions of Incredulity of Saint Thomas have been merged to one listing within this list by @Ruedi33a. (Secular and ecclesiastical version). These are in fact two different paintings from different years though. The ecclesiastical version being from 1601. Wouldn't it make sense to display them seperately. I'm asking here before making an edit. RfoxR (talk) 11:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RfoxR, please change the article "The incredulity of Saint Thomas (Caravaggio)"

in parallel, as the two paintings are described there with the same years of creation.

Ruedi33a (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just did. Thank you very much! RfoxR (talk) 17:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]