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I made some edits adding Smosh as #1 before Judson Laipply, with links to archived member counts from 2006-era youtube. This may throw off the claims of the opening paragraph as to who has been on top for how many days.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 18:28, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

PewDiePie In Front

Earlier today PewDiePie surpassed the spotlight channel. On the 23rd or 24th. There is currently no sources apart from vidstatsx.com. Can someone please add this? NaveenSaily (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Pewdiepie actually surpassed spotlight channel earlier. A few weeks ago, I think (based on vidstatsx.com)? He was the first to 17 and 18 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.182.99 (talk) 16:35, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

If there are other sources then you could change that fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lofangas (talk • contribs) 10:24, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Is this page even accurate?

There are channels which have many more subscribers than listed here. For example: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-9-kyTW8ZkZNDHQJ6FgpwQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:1053:A:6491:BEC3:48EA:669D (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

This page used to be accurate except for the channel Music replacing PewDiePie. Erase Music from this list and it will be the most accurate list in history — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Reveer (talk • contribs) 00:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Article title

This article currently is a history of the most subscribed channels, in some weird order. It isn't a list of most subscribed channels on YouTube now, as one might expect it to be. The title is very misleading.

Additionally, the tables are very hard to understand, particularly why the same channel is on there twice, with PewDiePie top and bottom, with the bottom one the current record holder. GedUK  11:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Agree. There's something wrong with this article. It should be a complete list. Not just the top one. JOJ ^Hutton 21:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2014

PewDiePie was blatantly changed to Music for no reason Paul Reveer (talk) 00:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done - but that editor has undone this reversal before - Arjayay (talk) 18:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Article title: Channels --> Users

Although many of the sources refer to individual user pages as "channels", according to YouTube they are different things. Compare Music to PewDiePie. A channel is a group of users with a similar theme. This article lists users, not channels, so there is some confusion about what the #1 spot should be. I've moved the article to a name that better reflects the content. ... discospinster _talk 19:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2014

PewDiePie | YouTube
(1989-) | USA (origin) <- Should be SWEDEN 85.228.59.90 (talk) 15:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

- this mistake was corrected at 17.00 on 27 July - i.e. 22 hours before your request
I understand non-registered users can see a slightly older version - so it may pay you to create an account - Arjayay (talk) 16:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2014

Pewdiepie was most subscribed for 313 days (80+4+219) not 257. Paul Reveer (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done - I think your adding up needs checking - I've automated it, but this will only update the chart when the page is edited, and won't increase its ranking in 2 days time - Arjayay (talk) 17:37, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Missing Youtubers

Where are the spanish-speaking community? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.38.215.77 (talk) 17:26, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

what about DanTDM? he is missing...he is the best youtuber ever and stampylongnose and cupquake Cupquakerurworld (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2014

please change "Anthony Padildo" to "Anthony Padilla" because is his real name. Dash008 (talk) 05:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Done — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 05:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Including YouTube on the list

I feel that although YouTube operates their own Spotlight channel, it is still a channel in the sense where it is registered username, and one can subscribe to it and it uploads its own videos and its not a topic-related channel such as "Gaming" or "Music". What I'm saying is the [Spotlight channel] is clearly different from [a Music] "channel". For example type in youtube.com/user/youtube and it stays there as a "user". Do the same with youtube.com/user/music and it redirects to youtube.com/channel/UC-9-kyTW8ZkZNDHQJ6FgpwQ so I feel there is a tangible difference here (between user and channel) and the Spotlight user should be included. Soulbust (talk) 04:23, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Need to clarify country of origin

What is this article defining under country of origin? Where the creators of the channels were born? Their citizenship? The country where the videos are produced? The country where they currently live? It looks mixed around, it would be helpful to readers if this information was more clear. Pewdiepie for example is a Swedish citizen and began creating videos in Sweden but now he lives in London and creates his videos there. Also the VEVO channels have the artists listed as the creator. Shouldn't the record label be in this place, as they're the ones writing, producing, and distributing their videos? And again the country of origin is messy for VEVO channels because it looks like it's referencing the artists' citizenship instead of the origin of the music. For example, Rhianna has a citizenship in Barbados however she is signed under an American music label, her music is created and managed in America by the American music label, and has a priority release in the American market before it's distributed world wide. If the focus of the channel is on the music rather than the artist's personality, shouldn't the country of origin reflect that? 2602:306:B827:ADF0:E497:7F13:3499:A657 (talk) 00:33, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2015

the subscribers of smosh have crossed 20 million 220.227.149.86 (talk) 20:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done -- haminoon (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2015

Hola soy german has not reached 22 million and is about 250,000 subscribers away from it, so you might consider changing it to 21 M+ 220.227.149.86 (talk) 21:36, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Done Kharkiv07^Talk 22:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2015

Aprox Subs; 36,078,593 58.153.105.129 (talk) 13:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 19:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2015

add gamingmayhem :D >:)

Cheseburgrmurder (talk) 20:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Subject is not notable to be on this list. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 20:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2015

Hi,

ElRubiusOMG reached 12 millons

Thanks

88.203.70.54 (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 21:13, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2015

KatyPerryVEVO has 16,348,828 while OneDirectionVEVO has 16,159,280. Edit the ranking accordingly please.

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2015

The diamond minecart has dethroned pewdiepie as the worlds favourite youtuber Edwin14332 (talk) 14:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 13 September 2015

Revert to version 23:35, September 12. Katty Perry is not North Korean as far as I know and Cooking with Dog does not have 16 million views. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:42, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Already done Looks like it was reverted already. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 September 2015

Does the protection notice really need to be at the top of this article's main body? It seems odd that the protection reason and duration would be found not in the edit window or talk page, but among the actual text of the article. In an editing dispute such as this one, there only needs to be a lock symbol in the upper right hand corner of the page. Can the protection notice be removed from the main text? Eventhorizon51 ^(talk) 00:32, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Done — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:51, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2015

Please change the amount of subscribers of the user, OneDirectionVEVO, from 16 million to 17 million, because they now have 17,007,283 subscribers. https://www.youtube.com/user/OneDirectionVEVO

This list depicts the 20 most subscribed channels on YouTube as of August 26, 2015. This lists omits "channels", and instead only includes "users". Additionally, these subscriber counts are approximations.[4]

 VEVO channel.

Rank User Creator(s) Country of Origin Subscribers 1 PewDiePie Felix Kjellberg Sweden 39 million 2 HolaSoyGerman Germán Garmendia Chile 23 million 3 YouTube Spotlight YouTube, Inc. United States 23 million 4 Smosh Ian Hecox, Anthony Padilla United States 21 million 5 RihannaVEVO Rihanna Barbados 17 million 6 OneDirectionVEVO One Direction United Kingdom 17 million 7 KatyPerryVEVO Katy Perry United States 16 million 8 EminemVEVO Eminem United States 16 million 9 TaylorSwiftVEVO Taylor Swift United States 16 million 10 JennaMarbles Jenna Mourey United States 15 million 11 nigahiga Ryan Higa, Sean Fujiyoshi United States 15 million 12 VanossGaming Evan Fong Canada 14 million 13 elrubiusOMG Rubén Doblas Gundersen Spain 13 million 14 Fine Brothers Entertainment Benny Fine, Rafi Fine United States 13 million 15 JustinBieberVEVO Justin Bieber Canada 12 million 16 Machinima Machinima Inc. United States 12 million 17 ERB Peter Shukoff, Lloyd Ahlquist United States 12 million 18 TheEllenShow Ellen DeGeneres United States 12 million 19 Yuya Mariand Castrejon Mexico 11 million 20 Sky Does Minecraft Adam Dahlberg United States 11 million Sparklez Tomlinson (talk) 20:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done If subscriber numbers are updated, they must ALL be updated for all items.--JacktheHarry (talk) 10:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Users vs Channels (again)

Last year the article was renamed users, instead of channels. This makes sense, and "channels" means something different in Youtube lingo, but users implies individuals, and that isn't quite right, either. According to his article, Toby Turner has ~15 million subscribers spread-out over three usernames. It's clear that this is total, and that enough people subscribe to all three that he may not belong on this list (I.E. the number of people who subscribe to one or more of Toby Turner's usernames is very likely under 11 million, and we would need a source saying otherwise), but it still suggest that the article name is a potential problem. Epic Rap Battles of History is on this list, but (at least) one member of that duo also has their own 'user' with millions of subscribers.[1] The list isn't wrong, exactly, but it's missing something. Renaming it 'usernames' would fix the problem, but that seems cumbersome. Anyway, not sure what to do about it, if anything. Grayfell (talk) 00:42, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Toby has already been removed, as 1 user can subscriber to three channels, that isn't a useful measure of anything.--JacktheHarry (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Additional tables

For tables Users who have reached peak position and First to subscriber milestones, users need to find reliable sources for the information before restoring it. The last revision which shows problem sources is revision 667835312. Of both tables, a third of the items are incorrectly sourced. It is unlikely such detailed statistics from the past are ever likely to be found.--JacktheHarry (talk) 09:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2015

katy perry now has 17 million so can you please change that?♥

J7jSd4 (talk) 13:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done - updated entire list - Arjayay (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Pewdiewpie has 40 million subscribers

The entries for Pewdiepie needs updating as he has 40 million subscribers as of 24th October 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.77.77 (talk) 16:13, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Adding Links

Can someone add the links missing for the youtube pages of the list? In particular those of Rubius and Veggetta. (83.44.27.9 (talk) 08:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC))

(— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.44.27.9 (talk) 08:48, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2015

dear creator i recommend you add vanossgaming to this list because he has 15 million subscribers and is extremely popular so if you please add vanossgaming to this list thank you.

199.254.165.160 (talk) 16:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

VanossGaming is already included in the list - at No 13 - with 15 Million subscribers
- Having checked, it has been in the list continuously since 6 February 2015 - Arjayay (talk) 17:14, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

More than 20?

Is there a reason why the list stops at 20? Could the list be expanded to 25, 30, or higher?

Also, in terms of the username/channel debate: the channels you seem to define as a "channel" and not a "user" all have a "hashtag" (#) before their names (i.e., #Music, #Sports, #TV Shows, #Gaming). Should we keep all "channels" with a # before their names off the list? Clbsfn (talk) 16:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

It occured to me after writing this post that there could be a legitimate YouTube user who decides to put a hashtag (#) at the beginning of their username. I suggest that we should define a "channel" without a "user" as a channel that has released zero videos. Clbsfn (talk) 16:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

To what number should the list stop at? In the meantime, I will refrain from adding any more until someone else tells me how far the list should go. I know it shouldn't go too far, since that will require a lot of work on the part of us Wikipedia editors having to update the list each time one user overtakes another. Clbsfn (talk • contribs) 23:10, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Since no one has responded, I have decided to increase the list to 50. I will take it no further, and if any editor wants to decrease the number, then that's okay with me. But taking the list anywhere past 50 will mean constant updating the page and will probably invite vandalism even more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clbsfn (talk • contribs) 17:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Clbsfn. I know this response may be a little late, but the set number the list should be in should be about 20-25. Due to the lack of people constantly contributing to and updating the site, it could be difficult to keep up with 50 individual entities. Especially considering how fast channels grow and rank up. 25 is the optimal range, both because it allows even a single person to keep up and update it constantly, and it's enough for a reader to be able to gather. Thank you! Latrellfg10 (talk) 21:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Previous month's table

@Materialscientist: that could be very useful.--Giorgi Eufshi (talk) 10:46, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Changes

Column "user" changed to username. Please link this column rows to the articles about the channels not the person behind it. Column Creator to "Owner" as it best describes a channel. I am sure Elen did not create the YT account for her show.--Giorgi Eufshi (talk) 07:39, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Subscriber icons

Subscriber counts should be accompanied by an icon indicating an increase or decrease of subscribers, eg:

  Vevo channel

Rank	Username	Owner	Country	Subscribers	Content
1 F2Plays|Tomas Vaitkunaz	Sweden	42 million	Video games
17	Fine Brothers Entertainment	Benny Fine, Rafi Fine	United States	13 million	Entertainment

This will more clearly show how things are changing and will be more interesting providing an overview.

--Davideggy (talk) 12:21, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

I like this idea, but how will know which to use? Chrisrus (talk) 15:38, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I like the idea too. I think that we should put the green 'up' arrow when the channel reached the current number from growing subscribers, and the red 'down' arrow when the channel reached the current number from losing subscribers. Clbsfn (talk) 17:52, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I am going to add the arrows. If anyone has a problem with it, feel free to take them down and discuss it here. Clbsfn (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

How do you decide whether the arrow is upwards or downwards? --Dixtosa (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

For example: if the channel's subscriber count has been growing, eventually they will reach the next million. If that happens, we put a green arrow. And if they lose subscribers, then we put a red arrow. The arrows should only be changed when the channel reaches a different number (in millions) than they currently do. This way, people can generally see whether the channel is losing or gaining subs. YouTube Spotlight and TheFineBros are two recent examples of where we could have put red arrows. Clbsfn (talk) 15:27, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Just to clarify - the reason the arrows for YouTube Spotlight and TheFineBros are green now is because the numbers they are at were reached through growth. If any channel loses enough subscribers for their million-number to go down, then we change their green up arrow to a red down arrow . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clbsfn (talk • contribs)

It is really useless. Like, really. What happened to FineBros and Spotligt deserve an article and a subsection respectively, not arrows. Also, generally, the arrows signify position changes so this makes it even more confusing. --Dixtosa (talk) 21:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

The might serve the reader if they clearly indicated whether they've last risen or fallen in order on the list. Chrisrus (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

justin bieber have 21m sub can u change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.120.245.76 (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

there missing a lot of great and awsome youtubers :-( Cupquakerurworld (talk) 01:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Upcoming edit

According to http://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/yuya/thefinebros we may need to edit this article soon. Chrisrus (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Rounding

@Latrellfg10 and Clbsfn: I like one digit after the decimal point. It becomes easier to find the channels that might have superseded others. --Giorgi Eufshi (talk) 08:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I understand, but there is a big issue. The lack of contributors updating at a consistent rate. The list contains 25 entire channels that can gain 100K subscribers in such a short time. For the sake of accuracy, shouldn't it be kept as it is? I also don't quite get what you meant by it becoming "easier to find the channels that might have superseded others". How would it be easier for the contributors or the person observing the chart? Contributors have to view an outside chart for reference on the ranks, anyway, and visitors would clearly be able to see who is above or below who. I'm seeing more negatives than positives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Latrellfg10 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I just wanted to say that of the 25 channels on the list, only 6 of them gain over 100K subscribers each week. It would not be too unreasonable to add one more decimal place. Clbsfn (talk) 05:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

At the current growth rates, if we added one more decimal place, the page would need to be updated every 2-3 days. Personally, I would be able to do this, but I want to ask the community: would needing to update this page every 2-3 days be too unreasonable? Adding a decimal place would increase the amount of information on the page, and would help people reading the article to see a more exact difference between the channels on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clbsfn (talk • contribs) 18:05, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Why the red links?

In your opinions, why aren't there article about two of these? Chrisrus (talk) 16:17, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

They are known to Spanish speaking world and you are in English Wikipedia.--Giorgi Eufshi (talk) 05:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

That's probably right. At least in part. How do you think we should fix that? Chrisrus (talk) 14:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2016

Remove red links (of Yuya, Mariand Castrejon, VEGETTA777 and Samuel De Luque) because I do not see that these are more important than those that do not contain link.

186.84.46.227 (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

It's not clear why you feel that WP:RED should be overlooked in this case.

You say that these two are not more important than those with blue links. But that's not the reason their links are red.

Their links are red because it's not clear that they shouldn't have articles.

They might be less or more important than the others, but they it's not clear if that means they are not important enough to have articles.

Please read WP:RED and be convinced by it's evidence and reason and agree that these two should have red links. Chrisrus (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. clpo13_(talk) 23:31, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

List of most subscribed YouTubers

What about adding a list of most subscribed YouTubers? It would include only channels of people primarily famous for being YouTubers, not pop stars and such. 17:57, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

List of most subscribed YouTubers

What do you all think of doing another list like this?

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This is a list of the most popular YouTubers, people who are notable primarily for uploading YouTube videos, as measured by subscriber count.

Rank	Name	Channel	Country	Subscriber Count	Genre
1	Felix Kjellberg	PewDiePie	Sweden	43 million	Video games
2	Germán Garmendia	HolaSoyGerman	Chile	27 million	Vlog
3	Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla	Smosh	United States	22 million	Sketch comedy
4	Rubén Doblas Gundersen	elrubiusOMG	Spain	17 million	Video games
5	Evan Fong	VanossGaming	Canada	16 million	Video games
6	Ryan Higa and Sean Fujiyoshi	nigahiga	United States	16 million	Comedy
7	Jenna Mourey	JennaMarbles	United States	15 million	Vlog
8	Mariand Castrejon	Yuya(YouTuber)	Mexico	14 million	Beauty
9	Benny and Rafi Fine	The Fine Brothers	United States	13 million	Entertainment
10	Samuel De Luque	VEGETTA777	Spain	13 million	Video games
11	Peter Shukoff, Lloyd Ahlquist	ERB	United States	13 million	Music
12	Sonny John Moore	Skrillex	United States	12 million	Music
13	Germán Garmendia	JuegaGerman	Chile	12 million	Video games
14	Olajide "JJ" Olatunji	KSI	United Kingdom	12 million	Video games
15	Markiplier	Mark Fischbach	United States	13 million	Video games

Adding this list might serve readers interested in learning about the most popular You Tubers, as opposed to You Tube Channels.

Katy Perry and Ellen DeGeneres are most notable for things other than the videos they upload to YouTube. This distinguishes them.

Channels with no clear YouTuber behind them are of course excluded as well, including YouTube itself.

I think many users would be interested if we kept this list here as well.

What do you all think? Your feedback is politely solicited.

Thank you!

Chrisrus (talk) 18:50, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

id support swapping the columns but not touchimg links within it--Dixtosa (talk) 21:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I fixed the problem with the columns, but don't understand what you meant about "not touchimg links within it". Chrisrus (talk) 16:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Markiplier

Markiplier just made it to 13 million, and so should be moved up. I can't edit it otherwise I would.

Peace ✌ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.247.72 (talk) 23:56, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Spinnin' Recordsis not Mexican

It says that Spinnin' Records is Mexican. Chrisrus (talk) 19:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2016

because of this and this, is sugerible accommodate it as follows:

it

16	Yuya	Mariand Castrejon	Mexico	14 million	Beauty
17	VEGETTA777	Samuel De Luque	Spain	14 million	Video games

To this

16	Yuya	Mariand Castrejon	Mexico	14 million	Beauty
17	VEGETTA777	Samuel De Luque	Spain	14 million	Video games

according to the Manual of Style.

186.84.46.227 (talk) 23:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

See edit summary. I personally couldn't find the names on List of YouTubers, so I avoided the links altogether. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 05:41, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Please read WP:RED and be persuaded by its evidence and reason. Red links are a good thing. If they bother you, create the articles. Chrisrus (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2016

pewdiepie subs to 46 million. 79.201.14.4 (talk) 13:10, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Done —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 16:47, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Just Help Needed

I haven't been able to figure out how to get PewDiePie's amount in days contentiously counting. So I had to update it to add one more day. Can someone please enter in the template for me.--JJBers (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Done Clbsfn (talk) 21:42, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Views format

So currently the views is in terms of 100 millions so PewDiePie's 12.8 billion views translates to "128" hundred million views. Considering how every channel here is past the billion view mark (with the exception of YouTube Spotlight), how about we just convert it to that? It's more compact and cleaner to read in my opinion. Soulbust (talk) 05:59, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Table issues

The table has worsened way too much since I last touched it. Who decided to include #movies? Also, who replaced owner infos with network infos? Network people don't even take part in producing videos. They are not the bosses of youtubers. Who thought it would be a good idea to have the same two links in the two columns (channel name and owner/network)? --Giorgi Eufshi (talk) 06:23, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Keep the table how it is.

Alright, so many people are changing the table, it's worthless to keep up the rules of first talk to edit. I believe it should just stay at 30.--JJBers (talk) 15:33, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I agree. This number is used by many other YouTube-related lists on this website, so it makes sense for this list to have 30. Clbsfn (talk) 16:17, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Yuya owns Yuya

It says Yuya owns Yuya.

For some probably obvious reason, Wikipedia doesn't know anything about Yuya, but surely we can do better than to say the channel owns itself. Chrisrus (talk) 02:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2016

1 Stephengaming 678

68.102.87.239 (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article.--JJBers (talk) 18:52, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2016

WWE has 15,000 more subscribers than Vevo, so shouldn't WWE's channel be #30?

2001:14BA:8300:0:0:0:3:1503 (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Topher385 (talk) 15:13, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Missing articles

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I'll just leave this here: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto_Discusi%C3%B3n:Videojuegos#Please_help_with_famous_Spanish-language_video_game_YouTubers Chrisrus (talk) 05:25, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

If/when we merge the page "List of YouTube Diamond Play Button recipients" with this one, there will be even more Spanish-language YouTubers on this page who don't have pages on the English Wikipedia. These would be: whinderssonnunes from Brazil, and TheWillyRex from Spain. Clbsfn (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Although, if we stop the list at 50 after merging, then TheWillyRex would not be on the list unless their count climbs up past the 50th channel. Clbsfn (talk) 16:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

@Clbsfn and Chrisrus: The usual response is probably that the solution is to create the articles. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 16:15, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, we definitely need to create an article for whinderssonnunes. They have the fastest growing subscriber count of any YouTube channel in the top 50. Clbsfn (talk) 16:17, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Through its WP:RED links, this article is helping to get these lacunas filled. In this way, this article has a positive effect on the project. Chrisrus (talk) 17:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

How the Yuya problem got fixed because of this article

I'll just leave this here. Chrisrus (talk) 17:48, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed merge with List of YouTube Diamond Play Button recipients

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The newer page, List of Youtube Diamond Play Button Recipients, is basically the same list as the "Top channels" section of this page, except containing more channels. I propose that that article be turned into a redirect to the "Top channels" section, with the list in that section expanded to include all the YouTube channels which have more than 10 million subscribers. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 12:43, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

That would see fine, I'll get to work on it as soon as I get home if no one does it.--JJBers (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

@JJBers: I don't think it's a good idea to merge it just yet, considering that the article is already a month old and this discussion has only been open for two days. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 07:47, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

@Jc86035: Well, I guess I would just wait until it seems alright to merge.--JJBers (talk) 15:30, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

@JJBers, Chrisrus, and Clbsfn: If the pages are to be merged (as clearly no one bothered to comment after that), should this page's list retain its current length (top 30), or should it use the length of the other list (10 million and above)? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 15:31, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

The more the better, so long as it doesn't get so big we can't keep up with it. That article indicates that so far we can handle more than this. But what about some time in the distant future when there will be maybe many times more than now? 15:37, 9 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisrus (talk • contribs)

@Chrisrus: I guess we could go for a compromise and keep the list to exactly 50? (Other list is 58.) Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 15:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

First of all, I'm sorry about the previous response, I was on a bus and on my phone with autocorrect on, but mainly I was trying to say is that the list is fine at 50 channels being constantly updated, but I suggested to have a revamp of the article List of Youtubers to change the channels to be organized by amount of subscribers than name, this is to keep any new people who get the subscription milestone to get the play button get put in those categories.--JJBers (talk) 01:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree that we should keep the list at 50 so it won't be too hard to manage in the future, and I certainly agree that that page should be merged with this one. They are two similar to exist separately. Clbsfn (talk) 15:57, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. --JJBers (talk) 22:06, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Question

Does the Vevo channel count as a Vevo channel? I mean it doesn't just feature one just artist, so I'm a little confused.--JJBers (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

I suppose that technically, since Vevo owns its own channel, we should consider it as a "vevo" channel. It's true that it isn't a channel for one specific artist, but that doesn't have to be true for us to consider it a "vevo" channel. Clbsfn (talk) 15:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Thumbnail Problem

Recently, a couple of users deiced to add a image to the page, which is fine if this was a page that was about subject, that was requested to have a photo, or needed one. But this page doesn't require, or even need one. I would understand the photo if there wasn't a thumbnail, but this is one from the navigation box on the bottom of the page, which doesn't mean it is a clear thumbnail, it still exists. Also if there wasn't a thumbnail, why pick PewDiePie, I understand he is the largest YouTube, but why have it be one specific person, and not one of a subscribe button, or a example of the most subbed list on YouTube. I just feel that the PewDiePie photo is pointless, and is unnecessary for the page to grow, or help it in any way.--JJBers (talk) 00:03, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

And also no one brought it to the talk page first, even though I reverted it two times. I'm just baffled by that.--JJBers (talk) 00:05, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Gallery

Since now the thumbnail problem has ended, I consider we have a gallery compromising of the top 5, which should be very stable right now.--JJBers Public (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorting

When the list is being updated, could the number in the icon (e.g. {{Steady|39}}) be updated as well? Otherwise it breaks the sorting and is rather confusing for readers. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 03:45, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2016

Fchancaygentle (talk) 04:43, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

| 39. |enchufetv |Mitu |Ecuador

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:29, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Change [enchufetv]Colombia To Ecuador

YouTube channel links

Wingding341, could you please stop restoring the YouTube links? The use of external links in the body of the text violates WP:EXT, so it seems better to link to YouTube in footnotes. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 00:06, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Change column

@MattStan10: is it necessary to have a separate column for the change arrows? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 11:00, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Jc86035: I think the change arrows in general are unnecessary for this list but if they're going to stay I think they should be separate. If you look at Billboard or Spotify charts they both have separate columns for the arrows. It looks better and makes more sense to put them in their own column instead of having both the rank and arrows squished together in the same column. --MattStan10 (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj

Isn't Minaj considered American despite being born in Trinidad? She's lived in the U.S. since age five, and on her article, it's been decided to call her a "Trinidadian-born American." Life of Tau (talk) 04:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@Life of Tau: The column is labeled "country of origin" not "country of residence" --MattStan10 (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@MattStan10: The U.S. isn't just her "country of residence"; it's where she was raised and built her career. I get the impression that the "country of origin" label is there either because of people like PewDiePie and Justin Bieber who currently reside in countries different to where they grew up and got their start or because otherwise all the Vevo channels would have to be labeled American since it's an American company. And this makes sense for them—just because they've moved to a different country doesn't mean their nationality has changed, and their pages reflect that, still calling them Swedish and Canadian, respectively. But this isn't the case for Minaj; she hasn't moved to a different country than the one she grew up in, and her page thus calls her a "Trinidadian-born American." May I ask what you consider the term "country of origin" to mean? Because if it's simply country of birth, then D.R.A.M.'s channel, should it make this list, would have Germany as its country of origin, despite him not being German in any way—he was just born there. If it's dependent on parental ethnicity, then the Weeknd would have Ethiopia as his country of origin. Life of Tau (talk) 01:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion in «Total uploaded video views»

I make a suggestion in adding the number of the "total views of all the videos" for each relevant user account according to this web.

Of the following way:

See table

Vevo channel Rank Chg Channel name Network / owner Country of origin Subscribers (millions) Total uploaded video views (billions) 1. PewDiePie Maker Studios Sweden 49 13,8 2. HolaSoyGerman. Machinima Chile 30 2,8 3. JustinBieberVEVO Vevo Canada 25 13,4 4. YouTube Spotlight YouTube United States 24 0,8 5. RihannaVEVO Vevo Barbados 23 10,4 6. Smosh Defy Media United States 22 6,0 7. elrubiusOMG Divimove Spain 21 4,6 8. OneDirectionVEVO Vevo United Kingdom 21 6,8 9. TaylorSwiftVEVO United States 20 10,0 10. KatyPerryVEVO 10,0 11. EminemVEVO 7,6 12. VanossGaming Evan Fong Canada 19 6,2 13. nigahiga Ryan Higa United States 18 3,0 14. TheEllenShow Time Warner 8,6 15. Fernanfloo BroadbandTV El Salvador 17 4,0 16. JennaMarbles Jenna Mourey United States 16 2,1 17. Yuya Mariand Castrejon Castañeda Mexico 1,7 18. VEGETTA777 Maker Studios Spain 5,9 19. JuegaGerman Machinima Chile 3,8 20. Spinnin' Records Spinnin' Records Netherlands 15 9,4 21. Markiplier Maker Studios United States 6,1 22. KSI StyleHaul United Kingdom 3,1 23. Skrillex Sonny John Moore United States 14 3,5 24. whinderssonnunes Fullscreen Brazil 1,0 25. Fine Brothers Entertainment United States 4,6 26. Dude Perfect Cory and Coby Cotton 2,4 27. ArianaGrandeVevo Vevo United States 14 5,6 28. ERB Maker Studios United States 14 2,4 29. T-Series T-Series India 13 12,6 30. AdeleVEVO Vevo United Kingdom 13 5,1 31. WWE WWE United States 13 12,1 32. jacksepticeye Maker Studios Ireland 5,9 33. WatchMojo.com WatchMojo.com Canada 7,2 34. The Diamond Minecart // Dan TDM StyleHaul United Kingdom 8,6 35. Vevo Vevo United States 12 0,3 36. Porta dos Fundos Porta dos Fundos Brazil 12 2,8 37. enchufetv Mitu Ecuador 3,6 38. David Guetta Warner Music Group France 7,4 39. Machinima Machinima United States 5,6 40. The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon NBCUniversal 6,1 41. Werevertumorro sevenludus Mexico 1,7 42. Sky Does Minecraft Machinima United States 3,4 43. PTXofficial SonyBMG 11 1,9 44. Bruno Mars Elektra Records 4,6 45. FailArmy Jukin Media 3,3 46. Maroon5VEVO Vevo United States 11 6,1 47. Good Mythical Morning Studio71 United States 11 2,9 48. Zoella StyleHaul United Kingdom 0,8 49. NickiMinajAtVevo Vevo Trinidad and Tobago 11 4,3 50. CollegeHumor CollegeHumor United States 11 5,0 As of December 3, 2016

Thanks. --190.143.15.131 (talk) 23:24, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

References

List of most subscribed YouTubers?

Do you think that a list of most subscribed YouTubers would also be good to have?

A YouTuber is someone who is primarily notable for creating and uploading videos to YouTube.

PewDiePie and Jenna Marbles are YouTubers, but Justin Bieber and The Ellen Show are not.

They are pop stars and TV talk show hosts who, yes, also have popular YouTube channels, but no one calls Eminem a YouTuber.

People might really enjoy and benefit from also having another list of the world's biggest YouTubers.

In my opinion. What's yours? Chrisrus (talk) 05:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

IMHO this isn't really necessary (we already have a list of channels). The selection criteria might also be slightly problematic: Bieber was initially found on YouTube before he became world-famous. There's a similar problem with Pentatonix (or four of them, anyway). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 12:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Pewdiepie is deleting his channel.

Pewdiepie has now confirmed on Twitter that he will delete his channel at 5pm gmt: https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/806981139399405569

In preperation you should probably take his name of the most subscribed list and changes his status on the "historically most subscribed" section. In addition, as soon as Pewdiepie deletes his channel, HolaSoyGerman will be the most subscribed Youtuber, so update that too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandostudios (talk • contribs) 01:49, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Let's wait until he actually does it. He could be trolling. DylanLacey (talk) 02:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

It was a troll. He deleted his second channel, which he only created just so he could get a gold play button that wasn't broken. Pewdiepie remains the reigning channel on this list. Clbsfn (talk) 18:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Adding ref(s) at the end of the template, looks messy otherwise?

Adding ref(s) at the end of the template, looks messy otherwise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandiego91 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

And perhaps add a "launch date" for context? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandiego91 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

VEVO channels highlighted

It does not seem to add quality content to the page highlighting the VEVO channel. I suggest it they are unhighlighted if no reasonable response is given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swagger9000 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2016

MuffinMen1 (talk) 21:38, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Add freekickerz as german youtubers with 5 million subs please. --MuffinMen1 (talk) 21:38, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: 5 million isn't enough to make the table. st170e^talk 22:15, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2016

nigahiga has 19 million subs. Aayarsh 7 (talk) 08:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 09:16, 19 December 2016 (UTC).