Talk:List of monarchs of Parthia

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Large amount of information lost

It seems that on February of 2020, the user User:HistoryofIran deleted an incredible amount of information from the article, including the removal of birth/death dates, removal of the throne name column, and removal of the additional chronological table comparing old/new chronology theories. In general, the article prior to February 2020 was mirroring the same template of Iranian dynasty lists from other Wikipedia articles, but now that formatting is lost. I think this information should be added back in LutherVinci (talk) 05:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you compare my the previous revision with the current one you will see that I didn't remove an incredible amount of information at all, I simply corrected the list. Assar's theories are not accepted in the majority of scholarship and are thus WP:UNDUE. Heck, he even retracts some of his theories in his later work. We don't need both a 'old' and 'new' list, we need one which is universally accepted and used in scholarship. Historians such as Dąbrowa, Olbrycht, Curtis, Daryaee, Shayegan etc all mention the rulers in this order. --HistoryofIran (talk) 08:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is it that Assar said that was removed? I listed a lot of different things that are now missing. If it is about the chronology, I was not aware the rulers of Parthia was in such flux to shift their dates around, since they are relatively recent in history. But that doesn't explain why the birth/death dates and throne names are gone as well.LutherVinci (talk) 04:53, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On all of the birthdates you simply put a question mark, I wouldnt really call that removing, nothing was lost. Also, there's not a single Parthian king whose birth date is known, we have a few theories about a few Parthian births at best. Their death dates are still listed. Sure, all the Parthian kings referred themselves by the family title/clan name of Arsaces, but they are certainly not referred to that in modern histiography, and certainly not with regnal dates, which is a modern practice. HistoryofIran (talk)